What if the Aztecs did not do human sacrafice?

Valdemar II

Banned
The doctorine of transubstantiation is by its very definition the belief that the bread and wine become the body and blood of Christ during cCommunion. Hence the magnificent quote: 'My God is not a biscuit'. Catholics still believe that transubstantiation is a miracle that actually metamorhposises bread and wine into flesh adn blood, whereas Protestants who practice communion merely take it symbolically.
It all depends upon which flavour of ridiculous mythology you choose to believe. . .

Incorrect the real Protestants still practice transubstantiation, while the crypto-Calviníst heretics doesn't.
 

Susano

Banned
Incorrect the real Protestants still practice transubstantiation, while the crypto-Calviníst heretics doesn't.

Well, you might want to say real Lutherans :p , but even so, really? Im pretty sure the official german protestant church believes in symbolism (of course, half their state churches are unionised, so there is a Calvinist influence).
 

Philip

Donor
Well, you might want to say real Lutherans :p , but even so, really? Im pretty sure the official german protestant church believes in symbolism (of course, half their state churches are unionised, so there is a Calvinist influence).

The Book of Concord is very clear that the Body and Blood are 'truly present'. What various Lutheran Churches today is another matter.
 
The Book of Concord is very clear that the Body and Blood are 'truly present'. What various Lutheran Churches today is another matter.
Technically what the Lutherans believe is not "Transsubstantiation" but something similar. I have heard the term "consubstantiation" used, but I've never studied specifically Lutheran theology.

It is my understanding that they believe that the elements are only transformed for the length of the service, which means they don't have to be as picky about e.g. spilled wine as Anglicans or RCs.
 

Susano

Banned
The Book of Concord is very clear that the Body and Blood are 'truly present'.
...and the Book of Concord is not regarded as in anyway sacred. It merely codified what Protestantism was like back then, not what it eternally will be.
 
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