What if State of Jefferson had actually seceded?

Its illegal for a new state to be formed?

It's illegal for the people within a state to form a new state from that state without the permission of both that state's government, and the Federal government.

However, if enough people in a state wanted to form a new state from within that state, and could get enough political support from the people of other states and from within their home state, then it is likely that the state they are trying to succeed from would allow them to leave the state to form their own state.

If this were to happen, then very soon afterwords the Federal government would allow the people in that state to form a new state on the basis of enough people not wanting to be part of the old state, and that they have therefore followed a natural, peaceable process to create a new state. Of course, there could be cockblocking from the representatives of other states, who would not want a new state to form on the grounds that it would weaken the power of their own state. For example, if a new Conservative-leaning state were to be formed, it is unlikely that the representatives of Liberal-leaning states would support the formation of that state, unless they could themselves acquire a new Liberal-leaning state as well.

Eventually the new state could overcome this one way or another through peaceable and legal means, and this would result in the legal creation of a new state from an old state for these United States of America.

Do you understand what I have stated?

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...state.
 
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Its illegal for a new state to be formed?

No at all, it is however illegal for new States to be made without the consent of the State(s) effected by the terrorial lose and also Congress. I already cited it, but here it is again in case you missed it. ;)

Article Four said:
New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.
 
However, if enough people in a state wanted to form a new state from within that state, and could get enough political support from the people of other states and from within their home state, then it is likely that the state they are trying to succeed from would allow them to leave the state to form their own state.

If this were to happen, then very soon afterwords the Federal government would allow the people in that state to form a new state on the basis of enough people not wanting to be part of the old state, and that they have therefore followed a natural, peaceable process to create a new state.

I wish to point out that outside potentially how you see West Virginia, this has never happened in American history. Not that this couldn't, however I personally do not see Jefferson being a good example of a potentiality as it was the product urban-rural dissonance and nothing more.
 
I CALL SHENANIGANRY!

I'm Irish by descent (both my parents were natural-born citizens of the Republic, and all my grandparents likewise), that totally gives me the authority to call shenaniganry!

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Apparently the origins of the word shenanigans is unclear and probably not Gaelic. Don't care. Sounds Gaelic.
 
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It also happened with Maine. To this day, I still believe that either Plymouth gets statehood, or Maine returns to the Massachusetts fold.
 
It also happened with Maine. To this day, I still believe that either Plymouth gets statehood, or Maine returns to the Massachusetts fold.

Yes yes yes, very interesting, but there's been a call of shenaniganry, so the thread's topic is put on hold until the shenanigans have been dealt with.
 
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