What if: Stalingrad won by Nazi's?

Stalin isn't making a peace that leaves him without the Ukraine and Hitler won't make a peace that leaves him without the Ukraine or in such a position of strength any peace deal that doesn't leave him with everything west of the Urals. The war in the east will continue with the same ferocity as it did historically until the Americans begin hitting German cities with nuclear bombs.
 
In the real timeline the Nazis had an artillery gun that could shoot from France to London. Maybe they could use this to damage London as much as possible, along with Luftwaffe attacks, then do something similar to D-day?

Schwerer Gustav? Doesn't have the range. No point in long-range artillery bombardment of cities, anyway, imo: too hit-and-miss, and a bit hard to hide from the inevitable retaliation: V1s and V2s are much better (or worse).

The Paris-Kanone of WWI didn't do much physical damage - admittedly causing considerable alarm and despondency among the Parigots.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Gun
 

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I suppose if the Germans used their blitzkrieg tactics and surrounded the city and crossed the Volga to cut off it's supply line and then treated Stalingrad as Leningrad and starve the city. Perhaps if the Germans allowed open-country combat vs. street to street combat, the 6th Army may have been able to fight off the Soviets more to their favor and defeat Operation Uranus.
 
Stalingrad

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I really can't see how the capture of Stalingrad would have affected the outcome of the war all that much. 2 previously mentioned points come to mind:
1) The Axis had definetely bit off more than they could chew. Once the Enigma was broken, Stalin and the other allies had a much better picture of what the Axis was up to
2) Lend-Lease was equally, if not more important, than reason #1. My grandfather managed a factory in Michigan which shipped tanks and trucks to the Soviets, via Murmansk and Anrchangelsk. The USSR had supplies coming in from their west coast, Persia AND the Barents Sea. If the Axis had cut the supply lines from the Barents Sea (Operation Silver Fox) AND the Persian supply lines, the USSR might have been in pretty serious trouble.

Just my 2 cents worth
 
If the Germans had captured Stalingrad before it was reinforced ( in the opening stage ages of Case Blue) they could have pushed on to Saratov ( German recon units actually approached it) they would have cut off Soviets from the oil in the caucus whether they captured the oil wells or not. It would have dealt their war economy a huge blow. maybe resulting in an armistice or surrender.
 
If the Germans had captured Stalingrad before it was reinforced ( in the opening stage ages of Case Blue) they could have pushed on to Saratov ( German recon units actually approached it) they would have cut off Soviets from the oil in the caucus whether they captured the oil wells or not. It would have dealt their war economy a huge blow. maybe resulting in an armistice or surrender.

Saratov, or Astrakhan?
 
I could see them beating the Soviet Union - CalBear's superb timeline has a german victory at Stalingrad as point of divergence- but about invading Britain... let's say people here has some very strong feelings on the matter.

Welcome to the board, btw.

Some very strong facts, imho.
 
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