What about a joint-Soviet-Nazi Sealion in December 1940? Surely it's less implausible with the naval and aerial forces of two superpowers.
Too long a flank, super long supply line, mutual incomprehension leading to massive command and control problems and there is no way at all that Hitler would allow the red army passage through Germany .The end .What about a joint-Soviet-Nazi Sealion in December 1940? Surely it's less implausible with the naval and aerial forces of two superpowers.
Turn this senario on its head.
The USSR needs to first push the Allies out of Europe. Check. The Red Army is far larger than the allies army and its still gearing up for war even as the war is ending. Futhermore with the 'will of the people' behind it the Red Army and Stalins leadership there may even be some legitermate support for continuing the war to all of Europe.
Britian cannot be invaded by land. So...
...You've got the Sea or Air routes. Given the sealanes are going to be closed to Stalin the only pragmatic action (other than nukes disreguard from this TL) is to mass produce glider and medium transport aircraft to try and swamp the British island with armed soviet troops.
Even if the soviets don't have tanks and heavy equipment, even if they don't have total air supiriority. They have the numbers and 'comunised industry' of all of fucking Europe.
Yes, the soviets could do it, but given Stalin being a coward he would never authorise it. Instead he'd go for 'peace' with the Allies althought this might in principle be 'not going any futher'.
1984 anybody?
What is the love of Soviet stuff on this board? I did a lot of research for The Soviet Invasion of Europe, 1945 and part of the reason I stopped writing was the whole "No! Soviets pwn Allies dont u no that!?" vibe I was getting.
What are Russian light infantry going to do having landed on the largest armed encampment in the world without air support, armour or any sort of logistic support? And how long do you think they're going to be able to do it for?
Cant happen.
The massive build up for this would be hammered by air with atomics U.S. industry will be pumping thousands of planes to Britian and the piolets to use them same for tanks and soldiers It would be a bloodbath and considering that most red army divisions were at brigade strength in 1945 due to the manpower pool being fully drained a disaster on this scale would end the soviets as a threat.
How are the Allies going to cope with 650,000 armed Red Army soldiers landing in multiple locations around Britain with 1948 level technology overrunning weak home guard units and taking a defensive stance against hurried counter-attacks? :/
They only have to take London, Birmingham and possibly the Royal Family and the fight is going to go out of the Brits like a lamp since almost a decade of war will be taking its toll. Particularly given they've just been kicked out of Europe.
The Russians don't 'need to supply' their troops because if this is the largest armed encampment in the world...well encampments have food and weapons don't they...?
My point is, not that the Soviets would do it, but they probably could do it if they went for it. Just like many things it only takes the will for it to be seen through, to get something done. Stalin being a coward was always overly cautious, so he wouldn't have organised anything like this, so on that score. Possibly? Probably. Plausible? No. (PPPN)
Too long a flank, super long supply line, mutual incomprehension leading to massive command and control problems and there is no way at all that Hitler would allow the red army passage through Germany .The end .
Too long a flank, super long supply line, mutual incomprehension leading to massive command and control problems and there is no way at all that Hitler would allow the red army passage through Germany .The end .