What if rap “music” was never invented?

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70%-80% of all music since 1990 is bad. And I grew up during the 90s.
If you think music suddenly, irreversibly got significantly worse in the 90s (or at any given point, really), you either have a rose-tinted and cherry-picked view of earlier eras, or have not bothered to properly explore new music.
 
Ugh, this could be an interesting idea if it wasnt for boomers.

My guess is that a sound evolving from sound system culture still develops, along the lines of electro, dancehall, breakbeat, jungle etc. I think it would be like how Grime developed independently in the UK from Jungle. Really hard to see how that would sound by the 90s
 
What's with the "music" quotes

Just because you don't understand it and don't like it doesn't mean it isn't music.
 
I guess I would be happy. Yeah, I hate it with a passion. Essentially it is just people talking. There are ever those that disagree and I am sure there will be many, but to me, it's just people talking somewhat faster than normal.
 
I mean when the OP’s likely a white person running on the premise is that hip hop, an intrinsically black form of artistic expression, isn’t music, and is generalising said black form of artistic expression as intrinsically bad by pointing to modern mainstream examples that don’t represent the wider spectrum of the genre, it’s hard not to say they’re coming at the subject from a racially biased perspective ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

e: btw this is a better song than everything Michael Bolton’s ever written
 
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Racist much?

Wow, sure is lot of veiled racism itt

I mean when the OP’s likely a white person running on the premise is that hip hop, an intrinsically black form of artistic expression, isn’t music, and is generalising said black form of artistic expression as intrinsically bad by pointing to modern mainstream examples that don’t represent the wider spectrum of the genre, it’s hard not to say they’re coming at the subject from a racially biased perspective ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

e: btw this is a better song than everything Michael Bolton’s ever written

I don't like rap music either. I do not like to getting accused of racism, just because I do not like some genre of music.
 
Hmm. There is a thing on this site called unsubstantiated accusations of racism. You are the one running around telling everyone who will listen that people are being racist for not liking a music type.

Personally I though the use of music in quotes by the OP was a big much.

Since then it’s been you acting like a dick. Do can you please like....stop it.
 
I think you started at 8.26 and moved on doubled down from there.

No, I said the thread’s premise (the prospect of hip hop, an intrinsically black form of artistic expression, not existing) was kinda racist (and in hindsight kinda ASB), especially with the title’s blatant dogwhistle quotation marks, and posts like these

It isn't good music, at any rate.

and

I’d much rather hear Time, Love, and Tenderness on repeat than hear Cardi B reciting pornographic obscenities or Lil Wayne rhyming “n***a” with itself or XXTentacion mumbling about how he can’t keep his d**k in his pants over a computer-generated beat.

which (a) say the entire genre is objectively bad based off one’s personal opinion (which isn’t to say ‘you have to like hip hop’ but to say that music taste is subjective and the idea that such and such a genre is inherently bad or non-musical has no place in any sort of objective historical discussion), and (b) generalise the entire genre based off of two examples of mainstream pop rap, ignoring the entire scope and history of hip hop, don’t really deviate from that racist premise

and again, I must stress that it’s okay to not like hip hop, but it’s not okay to loudly exclaim that you don’t like hip hop as if that actually means anything to anyone other than you

but go off I guess
 
Although I understand that people don't necessarily like some genre of music (and that's perfectly okay!), I feel that there is some level of generalization going on here. It's a very wide style of music with numerous sub-genres, especially nowadays. It's like someone saying that you don't like rock or pop, even though inside those particular genres there exists also pretty large differences between different artists and subgenres.

I’d much rather hear Time, Love, and Tenderness on repeat than hear Cardi B reciting pornographic obscenities or Lil Wayne rhyming “n***a” with itself or XXTentacion mumbling about how he can’t keep his d**k in his pants over a computer-generated beat.

Referring what I said above, rap I usually listen doesn't involve those things you describe here for example.
 
I mean, you're basically asking us to erase the 90s at this point. Modern rap (and it's white contemporary, grunge) both came up around the same time and took hold in part because, well, pop SUCKED in the 90s. No, really. Look at the charts from 90-92. Coming off the 80s, we let some of the worst musicians take up radio airtime. Rap did us a favor in making it so that the likes of Bolton, Stevie T and Maxi Priest never saw another hit on the charts.

Not only the 90s. With techniques like Sprechgesang and Recitative being significantly older we probably need a pre-1900 PoD to butterfly Rap music entirely.
 
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