What If-Quebec instead of Louisiana

What if Spain gets Quebec instead of Louisiana, after the Seven Years War? Will the USA Purchase it, will it return to France or will it fall to Britain?
 
Why would Spain want Quebec?

Well, it is an huge territory just like Louisiana was, but being more in the north it does give Spain different resources then its other colonies. (Sorry if i didn't talk english that good)
It has the disadvantage of not being connected to Mexico, anyway.
 
Unlike the US would purchase Quebec. The focus of US settlement expansion was westward...ultimately to the Pacific Ocean. Quebec is not on that trajectory. Quebec would likely fall to Britain during the Napoleonic wars.
 
Well, it is an huge territory just like Louisiana was, but being more in the north it does give Spain different resources then its other colonies. (Sorry if i didn't talk english that good)
It has the disadvantage of not being connected to Mexico, anyway.
The contemporary opinion of Quebec was that it was a few acre of ice,so there's no way Spain would want Quebec if it can have Louisiana instead.
 
What if Napoleon had decided not to sell Louisiana?

The US would have been constrained to half the size it is today. Thoughts?

You should probably open a new thread for this question... But anyway, the US was planning on conquering New Orleans if it couldn't get it peacefully. Louisiana probably would have followed, because it's hard to control that huge unpopulated region without New Orleans. So you'd pretty much have the same outcome there, although a difference is that the US would be more aligned with Britain during the Revolutionary Wars, and the Federalists might have more influence as a result.
 
Besides the fact that Quebec wasn't considered very valuable at the time, it wouldn't make a lot of sense for Spain to want a territory so isolated from its other possessions - and one that it knew Britain would go to war over.
 
Okay, what about making another thread on "What if Spain never lost Louisiana" then?

If they don't give it up in 1800, they'll lose it within 20 years, as they did Florida (and most of their other possessions in the Americas). The United States is all but guaranteed to end up taking Louisiana, which was not particularly valuable to either France or Spain in its 1800 state, but was valuable to the U.S. because of its desire to control the Mississippi River trade.
 
If they don't give it up in 1800, they'll lose it within 20 years, as they did Florida (and most of their other possessions in the Americas). The United States is all but guaranteed to end up taking Louisiana, which was not particularly valuable to either France or Spain in its 1800 state, but was valuable to the U.S. because of its desire to control the Mississippi River trade.
Well, just asking.
If Spain helds it enough...will it become independent after the independence of the colonies, or part of Mexico?
 
Its population is too small to become independent and being predominantly French-speaking, wouldn't want to be part of Mexico. It would be occupied by the United States and probably ceded in the same 1819 treaty in which Florida was turned over.
 
Well if the French gave Louisiana to Britain and Quebec to Spain... I think that with all that new territory, Britain might be able to placate the colonists for a good long while
 
Well if the French gave Louisiana to Britain and Quebec to Spain... I think that with all that new territory, Britain might be able to placate the colonists for a good long while

Well, they got the eastern half of it in the Seven Year's War. But that same year they issued the Proclamation of 1763 which restricted colonial settlement beyond the Appalachians.

For me, the big "what if" regarding Louisiana is about France asking for the western part of it back from Spain in 1783. France had ceded it in 1763 as compensation for Spain's loss of Florida. Spain regained Florida in the American Revolutionary War but France did not ask for Louisiana back. If they had, the history of the territory (and North America as a whole) could have been quite different. Perhaps the territory would have become a haven for émigrés fleeing the Revolution.
 
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Well, they got the eastern half of it in the Seven Year's War. But that same year they issued the Proclamation of 1763 which restricted colonial settlement beyond the Appalachians.

But now they have New Orleans and they're going to want to settle loyal Brits to counter the French people especially since the Cajuns were probably a little resentful of being ejected by the British from Acadia
 
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