What if a Plantagenet was able to marry a Swabian heiress and was able to gain land in Germany and be crowned as the Holy Roman Emperor how would it affect the Anglo-French and Franco-Imperial/German relations.
but what if they continued ruling?That would not change much. During the Interegnum a Plantagenet had been German King and he laft not a single mark in German history.
because they gained a powerbase in the Holy Roman Empire by marrying a Hohenstauffen heiress.Why would they?
because they gained a powerbase in the Holy Roman Empire by marrying a Hohenstauffen heiress.
I think they will try to gain the Throne of Sicily before they gain the German throne, the question is would they succeed in doing so and they have four enemies namely Charles of Naples, Rudolf of Habsburg and Manfred of Sicily, I think the son of Richard of Cornwall would ally with Przemysl Ottokar against the Habsburgs.They're in rather short supply, unfortunately.
But let's say Conradin has a sister and Richard of Cornwall marries her. Fine.
What makes anyone support Richard's son? Sure, they have a power base, but so do stronger (and/or more desirable) candidates.
I think they will try to gain the Throne of Sicily before they gain the German throne, the question is would they succeed in doing so and they have four enemies namely Charles of Naples, Rudolf of Habsburg and Manfred of Sicily, I think the son of Richard of Cornwall would ally with Przemysl Ottokar against the Habsburgs.
I think Conradin's sister could marry to a son of Richard of Cornwall, Edmund the son of Richard of Cornwall and Sanchia of Provence, the Question is how would Edmund fare against Rudolf, Charles or Peter.Okay, hold on.
Richard is presumably marrying Conradin's sister (hereafter Elizabeth after her mother) as his third wife.
Any son from such a marriage would still be a boy - not even as old as Conradin when he died - in the 1270s.
Manfred is out of the way. Rudolf probably doesn't care if a ten year old boy is duke of Swabia.
So that leaves Charles of Sicily - and Peter of Aragon, who probably doesn't want to give up his claim to Richard's son.
I'd address the issue of why supporting Ottocar, but given his age, Richard's son is in little position to support anyone - and Richard has lands and responsibilities elsewhere (part of why he neglected Germany OTL).
I think Conradin's sister could marry to a son of Richard of Cornwall, Edmund the son of Richard of Cornwall and Sanchia of Provence, the Question is how would Edmund fare against Rudolf, Charles or Peter.
I think he could ally with Premysl Ottokar against the Habsburgs, he can waive Cornwall just like what his relative Otto did to Aquitaine but the question is can he win against the Habsburgs?Edmund was born in 1249, and his father (OTL) died in 1272 at sixty-three (a ripe enough age that it's unlikely to change much for the better).
How seriously would anyone take Edmund's claim to be duke of Swabia by right of marriage to Elizabeth? As in, will he even be able to get to the point of having a powerbase?
How much will Edmund press that when he has Cornwall and issues back home to deal with?
I think he could ally with Premysl Ottokar against the Habsburgs, he can waive Cornwall just like what his relative Otto did to Aquitaine.
because Rudolf of Habsburg would be their common enemy.So waive something definite and profitable in exchange for something uncertain and disrupted.
Why?
And why would he want to side with Ottokar?
because Rudolf of Habsburg would be their common enemy.
And do not forget Richard's support of his nephew Otto who became emperor Otto VI, the only Welf ever to become Roman Emperor. (And BTW Otto had been Richard's heir until he got the chance to become emperor.)...
One difficulty has to be butterflied. The Plantagenets and Hohenstaufens were enemies in OTL. The Plantagenets were connected by marriage to the Hohenstaufens' rivals, the Welfs from the reign of Henry II of England. The enmity persisted through the following generations, manifesting itself with Henry VI's imprisonment of Richard the Lionheart, the Bouvines campaign in King John's time and Henry III's futile plan to depose Frederick II in favor of Henry's son Edmund.