What if Obama was assassinated prior to the 2008 election

If it happened before the convention, then Hillary is the nominee and it's a whole different election. Hillary becomes nominee. McCain nay or may not pick Palin. And unlike OTL, McCain doesn't pull his punches.

I agree there'll be riots. Young ppl and blacks who turn out in big numbers for Obama stay home. Winner is a tossup.

Why do you assume that?
 
Why do I assume McC wouldn't pull his punches?

Yes.

We saw an example of how McCain runs for the PResidency, why do you assume that he would do it differantly with a differant opponent.

I admitt there would be some differance of course, but why should we assume that he would dramatically change his basic tone?

FYI I would love for you to convince me. A McCain win senerio warms my heart. Some.
 

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Because he can hit really hard if he's trying to win. He demonstrated that this yr in his primary.
 
There would be large riots in many American cities. The far left and african-americans would get radicalized. Whoever ends up running on the democratic side will still win, if anything by greater margins because of a sympathy vote, but they wouldn't have as much support from the left-wing or from african americans. You would see the left turn against the democrats even faster than they have under obama. It would definitely be a scary development.
 
I sense that a lot of cities with African Americans are going to burn. I don't even want to think about it. I'm thinking something along the likes of 68 occurring. You might even have a Republican victory.
 
There would be large riots in many American cities. The far left and african-americans would get radicalized. Whoever ends up running on the democratic side will still win, if anything by greater margins because of a sympathy vote, but they wouldn't have as much support from the left-wing or from african americans. You would see the left turn against the democrats even faster than they have under obama. It would definitely be a scary development.

Hmm, so we might see a left-wing version of the Tea Party? I do wonder what that would look like. Though presumabley not quite so insane:p
 
Leftists can be just as stupid and insane as Teabaggers. Just look at Michael Moore. :rolleyes:
Can you name one thing comparable to the "born in Kenya"/"it's socialist to make Medicare more efficient"/"businesses should be allowed to discriminate"/"ban masturbation"/"end the 17th amendment" bullshit coming from the right?
 
Can you name one thing comparable to the "born in Kenya"/"it's socialist to make Medicare more efficient"/"businesses should be allowed to discriminate"/"ban masturbation"/"end the 17th amendment" bullshit coming from the right?

Well, for one, there's:

The Bush did 9/11 theories

Bush Worships the Devil (although to be fair, most of it came from Prison Planet)

Bush was going to kill Americans in Fema camps and make himself dictator for life (to be fair, that was making the rounds in Reagan's and Clinton's times as well, possibly going furhter back)
 
You've never heard of Naomi Wolf and Michel Chossudovsky have you?

What's wrong with Naomi Wolf? As for Chossudovsky, Truthers are found across the ideological spectrum but(contrary to popular conception) are strongest on the Far Right(amongst Ron Paul types, and even moreso amongst Neo-Nazis, apologies to any Paulites offended by the juxtoposition)
 
Bush Worships the Devil (although to be fair, most of it came from Prison Planet)

Bush was going to kill Americans in Fema camps and make himself dictator for life (to be fair, that was making the rounds in Reagan's and Clinton's times as well, possibly going furhter back)
Leftwingers are secular leaning, and you think accusations of devil worship are leftwing:p?

As for Fema camps, entirely retarded yes, but they were overreactions to Bush's practice of torture and the Patriot Act. No comparable "excuse"(to the extent that it is in fact an excuse, which it isn't really) exists for the Far-right with regards to some of it's insanities.
 
What's wrong with Naomi Wolf? As for Chossudovsky, Truthers are found across the ideological spectrum but(contrary to popular conception) are strongest on the Far Right(amongst Ron Paul types, and even moreso amongst Neo-Nazis, apologies to any Paulites offended by the juxtoposition)

Given that naomi wolf went off the deep end (look at the jref forum threads about her.) c. 2006, and said

* Bush was creating a fascist dictatorship

* Bush was going to cancel the 2008 elections and kill americans in fema death camps.

This wasnt that different from the "z0mg, Bush worships teh devil!!" and the NWO conspiracies peddled by Alex Jones.
 
Given that naomi wolf went off the deep end (look at the jref forum threads about her.) c. 2006, and said

* Bush was creating a fascist dictatorship

* Bush was going to cancel the 2008 elections and kill americans in fema death camps.

This wasnt that different from the "z0mg, Bush worships teh devil!!" and the NWO conspiracies peddled by Alex Jones.
Another twoofer. Like I said, most prominent on the far right.

Seriously and more importantly, it was an(insane) reaction to 8 years of real violation of civil liberties under Bush.

The examples I cited of conservative insanity(and stuff even worse then that) on the other hand, were fully developed prior to Obama even being elected. What was the worst insanity targeting Bush prior to his election? More importantly, how bad do you think right wing insanity will have gotten by the end of Obama's presidency? I predict it will be rather worse and far more widespread then anything Naomi Wolf came up with(perhaps even with militias rallying with threats to launch a coup if anything untoward happens) what with how radicalized the Tea Party has already gotten and the fact that they have 2/6 more years to stew in their juices.
 
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Another twoofer. Like I said, most prominent on the far right.

Seriously and more importantly, it was an(insane) reaction to 8 years of real violation of civil liberties under Bush.

The examples I cited of conservative insanity(and stuff even worse then that) on the other hand, were fully developed prior to Obama even being elected. What was the worst insanity targeting Bush prior to his election? More importantly, how bad do you think right wing insanity will have gotten by the end of Obama's presidency? I predict it will be rather worse and far more widespread(perhaps even with militias rallying with threats to launch a coup if anything untoward happens) what with how radicalized the Tea Party has already gotten and the fact that they have 2/6 more years to stew in their juices.

Yeah, i am really worried about whatever insanity the teabaggers will come up with next (the optimistic part of me hopes that they fade away by 2012)
 
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