What if Nazi Germany created a bomb that could bomb the US?

This requires so many avoidances of reality ('what if they kept this program') that a similar situation can be shown here:

Why is theflyingmongoose not a doctor?

1. theflyingmongoose is 14, and they don't let 14-year-olds into medical school

2. theflyingmongoose has no interest in becoming a doctor

3. theflyingmongoose has a phobia of blood

4. theflyingmongoose lived half of his life in Arkansas

The amount of changes required for Germany to launch an A-10 with enough accuracy to not hit a random field miles from Washington would require so many resources that WW2 might indeed be shortened... In favor of the allies.
 
Well,the Reich goes broke for one thing. The V2 program was 50% more expensive than Manhattan, for vastly less impact, and the sort of long range system needed would have been many times more costly to deliver the same size warhead. Since there is also talk about manned bombers it is worth noting that the B-29 program was MORE expensive than Manhattan or the V1/V2 programs.

I've seen a few comparisons for V2 vs Manhattan program cost and the way it is accounted for.
From: The Rocket and the Reich: Peenemunde and the Coming of the Ballistic Missile Era By Michael J. Neufeld

This book says 2 Billion MARKS (not Dollars) for the V2 and even if using a pre war exchange rate of 4.2 marks to the USD then thats 25% ($0.5B) of what the US spent on the A Bomb program ($2B). Neufeld notes the conversion rate is a problematic assumption.
 
...to build the V-2 rocket, which was a FAILURE...
I'd say the V-2 was too late rather than a failure. The Nazis needed the V-2 in the summer of 1940 to force the British to surrender with an unstoppable terror weapon, rather than making the rubble bounce on the corpse of the British Empire in the summer of 1944, when the Nazis were being zerg-rushed and shot at and bombed by not just the British, but by everyone else who had joined the Allies anyway by then from all sides.
 
Assuming that this is 'Napkinwaffe' Amerika Bomber and not an ICBM then it would be more useful locating and attacking convoys Mid Atlantic with Fritz X than dropping a handful of bombs on New York and even that is fraught with danger given the number of escort carriers

The issues with firing a 'rocket' is how do you know if its hit anything?

And how would accuracy be assured at that range

No chance of BDA

I suspect that such a weapon would be aimed 'at the Eastern Sea board' and would be more a politic a statement than a war winning weapon

The same could be said for a handful of bombing raids.

All of the above is a pointless waste of scant resources so I wish they had done it!
 
What if they managed to destroy the white house / capital area with a bomb or do severe damage to it. I imagine such a bomb would strike without warning and by the time attempts are made to shoot it down it would be too late.

You seem to be wanting some modern icbm which Germany was decades away from, and if which they HAD had access to, would have found itself target #1 of the 8th.
 
I'd say the V-2 was too late rather than a failure. The Nazis needed the V-2 in the summer of 1940 to force the British to surrender with an unstoppable terror weapon, rather than making the rubble bounce on the corpse of the British Empire in the summer of 1944, when the Nazis were being zerg-rushed and shot at and bombed by not just the British, but by everyone else who had joined the Allies anyway by then from all sides.
And when they don’t build enough Panzers and tactical aircraft to beat France, it doesn’t matter if they have a bunch of terror-bomber rockets. The pre-Fall of France Germany didn’t have the budget or resources to throw away on a fantasy rocket project.
 
I'd say the V-2 was too late rather than a failure. The Nazis needed the V-2 in the summer of 1940 to force the British to surrender with an unstoppable terror weapon, rather than making the rubble bounce on the corpse of the British Empire in the summer of 1944, when the Nazis were being zerg-rushed and shot at and bombed by not just the British, but by everyone else who had joined the Allies anyway by then from all sides.
Nope, it was a failure.

The V-2 rockets killed a total of 9,000 Allied soldiers and civilians combined. That sounds like a lot more than it is though, because it took THREE THOUSAND rockets to do that. Three people per rocket. That's awful for how much the damn things cost. And notably, this is actually rather erroneous since it is heavily biased toward initial use, since that's when most of the damage came from. As the war went on the massive intelligence deficiency of the Nazis caused the damage to decrease, with rockets being aimed at sparsely populated areas of Kent rather than any real target.

The V-2 project killed more of its own workers (because Nazis) than it did Allies.
 

Garrison

Donor
Well suppose the Nazi's used the A9/A10 manned vehicle with a pilot from the Leonidas Squadron? A suicide mission to strike the heart of the US government would probably be far more palatable than simply ramming a B-17. A pilot would take care of the targeting issue and while an A-Bomb is beyond the Germans they might be able to construct some sort of dirty bomb. Allowing that this would probably represent the absolute best the Germans could do it isn't going to win them the war, more likely the US uses its own weapons on Germany rather than Japan initially and there's no post-war Marshall plan.
 

nbcman

Donor
Accuracy is a problem for the A9/A10 missiles unless the Nazis can convince some LW schlubs to take a ride:

Guidance systems of the time were hopelessly inaccurate at the 5000 km range planned for the A9/A10. Therefore it was decided that the A9 would have to be piloted. After cut-off of its engine at 390 km altitude and 3,400 m/s, the A9 would re-enter and begin a long glide to extend the range. The pilot was to be guided by radio beacons on surfaced German submarines in the Atlantic Ocean. After reaching the target the pilot would lock in the target in an optical sight, then eject. Death or internment as a prisoner of war would follow

So the missile would rely on a human pilot as well as the ability for the KM to have a submarine survive in the Atlantic Ocean against the WAllies ASW efforts after 1944 to broadcast a beacon for the pilot to follow. Snowball and hell comes to mind on the chances.

The Germans could have tried sub launched rockets to deliver munitions on the US, however, the US was expecting that and executed Operation Teardrop to interdict German subs that were sent to the eastern seaboard of the US and Canada.
 
Well suppose the Nazi's used the A9/A10 manned vehicle with a pilot from the Leonidas Squadron? A suicide mission to strike the heart of the US government would probably be far more palatable than simply ramming a B-17. A pilot would take care of the targeting issue and while an A-Bomb is beyond the Germans they might be able to construct some sort of dirty bomb. Allowing that this would probably represent the absolute best the Germans could do it isn't going to win them the war, more likely the US uses its own weapons on Germany rather than Japan initially and there's no post-war Marshall plan.
Well considering the idiot piloting the thing isn’t going to know where he is until it re-enters the atmosphere and he’ll be guiding it my Mark 1 Eyeball (with maybe a telescope) and he’ll only have a few second to make course corrections right before impact AND he’ll be fighting both speed and mass to get the rocket to maneuver, I’d say all you managed to do is waste an expensive rocket along with a human pilot.
 

Starforce

Banned
Well suppose the Nazi's used the A9/A10 manned vehicle with a pilot from the Leonidas Squadron? A suicide mission to strike the heart of the US government would probably be far more palatable than simply ramming a B-17. A pilot would take care of the targeting issue and while an A-Bomb is beyond the Germans they might be able to construct some sort of dirty bomb. Allowing that this would probably represent the absolute best the Germans could do it isn't going to win them the war, more likely the US uses its own weapons on Germany rather than Japan initially and there's no post-war Marshall plan.
Either you have a somehow accurate or half way decent guiding system, or you have a pilot who would basically do a suicide mission.
Well considering the idiot piloting the thing isn’t going to know where he is until it re-enters the atmosphere and he’ll be guiding it my Mark 1 Eyeball (with maybe a telescope) and he’ll only have a few second to make course corrections right before impact AND he’ll be fighting both speed and mass to get the rocket to maneuver, I’d say all you managed to do is waste an expensive rocket along with a human pilot.
Not true, the rocket's pilot would eject before the impact according to the plans. What do you think of these plans?

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Well considering the idiot piloting the thing isn’t going to know where he is until it re-enters the atmosphere and he’ll be guiding it my Mark 1 Eyeball (with maybe a telescope) and he’ll only have a few second to make course corrections right before impact AND he’ll be fighting both speed and mass to get the rocket to maneuver, I’d say all you managed to do is waste an expensive rocket along with a human pilot.
And the advantage for the allies is that all the space and weight taken up by the pilot and his equipment means even less explosive carried.
 
Either you have a somehow accurate or half way decent guiding system, or you have a pilot who would basically do a suicide mission.

Not true, the rocket's pilot would eject before the impact according to the plans. What do you think of these plans?

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Looks like a plan that works in comicbooks. Unfortunately real life isn't a comicbook.
 
While providing more fuel to the Allied propaganda machine and increasing civilian paranoia, a weapon that could hit the US wouldn't have any long term strategic effect on the war. One butterfly might be that the Americans are far less forgiving of German scientists this time around if the Germans actually manage to kill people.
 
Either you have a somehow accurate or half way decent guiding system, or you have a pilot who would basically do a suicide mission.

Not true, the rocket's pilot would eject before the impact according to the plans. What do you think of these plans?
They look like something Wile E. Coyote would come up with.
 
Either you have a somehow accurate or half way decent guiding system, or you have a pilot who would basically do a suicide mission.

Not true, the rocket's pilot would eject before the impact according to the plans. What do you think of these plans?

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Hmmmm..............how much experience did Nazi Germany have with hypersonic gliders, ejection seats and sub orbital mechanics. Has anyone ever managed to eject at hypersonic speeds? Only a handful have ejected at supersonic speeds.

And targeting - how?
 
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