What if the vietnamese failed to throw off Ming China's domination in the 1420s and held control through the life of the dynasty, with the Qing the inheriting domination of Vietnam?
Significantly in the 1420s, "Vietnam" consisted of only the northern third of modern Vietnam. From the 18tg parallel south, the Hindu and Muslim an Malay influenced champs state ruled. Down in Cochin China, Mekong delta and the Saigon area the khmers ruled.
Was Vietnamese demographic expansion and displacement of the Chams and Khmers only enabled by an independent state? If Vietnam perpetually remained a province of imperial China, would champa and Khmer rule of southern Vietnam have persisted till the 20th century, or would southern Vietnam have been absorbed by china also?
Also what would have been the plausibility of the chams setting up the dominant kingdom in Taiwan before the 1600s and Dutch and spanish establishments on the island?
Significantly in the 1420s, "Vietnam" consisted of only the northern third of modern Vietnam. From the 18tg parallel south, the Hindu and Muslim an Malay influenced champs state ruled. Down in Cochin China, Mekong delta and the Saigon area the khmers ruled.
Was Vietnamese demographic expansion and displacement of the Chams and Khmers only enabled by an independent state? If Vietnam perpetually remained a province of imperial China, would champa and Khmer rule of southern Vietnam have persisted till the 20th century, or would southern Vietnam have been absorbed by china also?
Also what would have been the plausibility of the chams setting up the dominant kingdom in Taiwan before the 1600s and Dutch and spanish establishments on the island?