What if MacArthur's proposal had approved? Let's A-bombed China

If the USA can neutralize airfields close to Korea and also seriously degrade the supply lines in China leading to Korea (rail concentrations in junction cities etc), this makes logistics in Korea very difficult for the Chinese. Yes the Chinese hump supplies on packs on dirt tracks at night. Yes the Chinese soldiers live on a handful of rice a day. If the Chinese have to carry supplies on their backs from a couple of hundred kilometers inside China to the Korean Border before they go anywhere in Korea this is a problem. If you are willing to nuke China, then tactical air will be tearing up everything within a couple of hundred kilometers of the border. Absent a sufficient logistical train the Chinese (and North Korean) armies will become ineffective in short order - a half a handful of rice or less won't cut even for the Chinese.

In 1950 the communist rule in China was by no means firm. There were significant areas marginally controlled and some effective nationalist forces over the border in Burma. Certainly Hainan could be taken back, and perhaps some Nationalist forces might get an area under control on the mainland. China in 1950 was not the China of the 1960s or 70s with hordes dedicated to the adoration of Mao and his thoughts.

IMHO Russia would not go to war with NATO over China/Korea. Any WP forces were of dubious quality and reliability, and as the A-bomb numbers showed the US could gradually reduce Russia to the 18th century level. The odds of more than one or two Russian bombs landing on the USA were small, in Europe, it depends. Stalin was willing to take what he could take easily - breaking agreements about Eastern Europe and free elections, the Czech coup etc but if there was a chance the response would smash the USSR no way.

Of course this is with the benefit of hindsight, and none is guaranteed to play out this way, Murphy always has a say. IMHO even if it all went as well as possible, the fact that atomic weapons had been used again would be a very bad thing and I expect we would have seen more use since then. Maybe in Vietnam when the French asked for it, later on maybe between India and Pakistan, etc. For sure the current nuclear proliferation restrictions would not have come about.
 
Using atomic bombs against China would probably be ineffective at best.


During the opening months of the war, a British Member of Parliament
had suggested that the United States drop an atomic bomb on the capital of
North Korea in order to bring the war to a swift end. The Bulletin of Atomic
Scientists quickly retorted that the suggestion was 'obviously absurd'. The
editorial argued that 'flattening the capital of North Korea with or without
killing tens of thousands of its inhabitants would not destroy the fighting
capacity of the communist army'..

The US flattened Pyongyang the old fashioned WWII way, with B-29s dropping HE, along with most every other city they had.

What this meant was the DPRK was totally reliant on Red China and the USSR for all manufactured goods, and the DPRK's army was done for, without the million Chinese 'Volunteers'
 
Gen. Douglas MacArthur said:
It was my plan as our amphibious forces moved south to spread behind us—from the Sea of Japan to the Yellow Sea—a belt of radioactive cobalt. It could have been spread from wagons, carts, trucks and planes.... For at least 60 years there could have been no land invasion of Korea from the north. The enemy could not have marched across that radiated belt."

From a purely technical PoV, could this have been feasibly implemented south of the Chinese border ?
 
Bomb counts USA USSR
1950 369 5
1951 640 25
1952 1,005 50
1953 1,436 120
1954 2,063 150

At which, the best USSR Bomber was the copy of the B-29A, the Tu-4 Bull

B-29A did poorly against Mig-15s, so would Tu-4 against the F-84, F-86, F-89, F-94, F2H and F9F.
Oh, and F-100 Clunks, for that matter.

The US always had more Interceptors in CONUS than the USSR had bombers capable of reaching the US border
How much damage can the MIGs do to the B 36?
 
How much damage can the MIGs do to the B 36?

At high altitudes, the B-36 was far more maneuverable than early USAF jets, could turn and roll with ease that a trailing fighter trying to match would stall and spin out before getting a firing solution
 
The best way of using nukes against China would probably be to nuke military facilitaties in southern China to make a Kuomintang counteroffensive possible.
 
The best way of using nukes against China would probably be to nuke military facilitaties in southern China to make a Kuomintang counteroffensive possible.
But the only thing the KMT had on the mainland at the time was the Hui Insurgency in Western China. Yes, the PRC of 1951 was an extremely shaky regime, but I doubt if any analyst in his right mind would think that it'd fall that easily.

But hey, we're talking about A-bombing China, so that wouldn't be that far of a stretch.
 
't forget that the US offered to drop a bombs on Indochina to get the French out of a mess. France refused.
When did this happen? Every reference I've ever seen says that the French wanted Eisenhower to use a-bombs to bail them out of Dein Bien Phu and he refused
 
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