What if Louis of Orleans plan to marry Mary of Hungary pushes through

What if the plan to marry Louis of Orleans to Mary of Hungary pushed through how would that affect the history of France, HUngary and Poland.
 
An advice : you are really making too "marriages" threads. The lasts one had 4/5 answers at best because you don't try to push deeply the thing, you just make one and another one, and another one. You should focus on fewer topics.

That said : royals marriages are really only the emerged part of the iceberg. It would have changed nothing but details in the great majority of cases. Things like Alienor giving a whole duchy to his sucessives spouses is rare. Marriages like the one between the Stuart and Francis II making absolutly nohting different are the norm.

In this exemple, as Louis priorities are to take control of the council, to crush the Bourguignon's faction, etc; it would have maybe pushed Louis to not assassinate Jean, or everything else. But the civil war cause were already there, and he would likely end murdered, or diying in battlefield if nothing else change.
 
An advice : you are really making too "marriages" threads. The lasts one had 4/5 answers at best because you don't try to push deeply the thing, you just make one and another one, and another one. You should focus on fewer topics.

That said : royals marriages are really only the emerged part of the iceberg. It would have changed nothing but details in the great majority of cases. Things like Alienor giving a whole duchy to his sucessives spouses is rare. Marriages like the one between the Stuart and Francis II making absolutly nohting different are the norm.

In this exemple, as Louis priorities are to take control of the council, to crush the Bourguignon's faction, etc; it would have maybe pushed Louis to not assassinate Jean, or everything else. But the civil war cause were already there, and he would likely end murdered, or diying in battlefield if nothing else change.

I like using marriages as POD, like what I was trying to do between Valentina Visconti and Ladislao Durazzo, I like using marriage POD's especially the ones that decide the destiny of a people like what happened to Eleanor of Aquitaine since I find marriage of an only heir being the best justification for annexation, so sorry if I make too much marriage threads.

Yes, it would likely affect his place in France but would Louis claim the Polish throne because he was considered to rule Poland with his wife Mary and would this marriage start a Valois Poland?
 
I like using marriages as POD, like what I was trying to do between Valentina Visconti and Ladislao Durazzo, I like using marriage POD's especially the ones that decide the destiny of a people like what happened to Eleanor of Aquitaine since I find marriage of an only heir being the best justification for annexation, so sorry if I make too much marriage threads.
As i said, Alienor of Aquitaine is an huge exception. Combinaison of a big inheritance, single and skilled woman (and powerful too) and powerful enough husbands to absorb a big territory with its own customs and laws.
This is rare, and in the majority of cases, mariages are only a way to officalize or validate a political and diplomatical alliance, as much the seal could be.

Yes, it would likely affect his place in France but would Louis claim the Polish throne because he was considered to rule Poland with his wife Mary and would this marriage start a Valois Poland?
As i said, he could claim everything he wanted to, it's not a marriage that would gave him enough force to change something in France, and even more in Hungary.
The local nobilty don't wanted a personal union between the two countries. A matrimonial alliance wouldn't change anything to that (as the french have others, more problematics issues at home, too much to intervene), and it would even likely force Mary to exile with Louis in France if he tried to do so.
 
Very unlikely. Louis d'Orléans adhered to Avignon and Mary of Hungary and (ostensibly) her Regency adhered to Rome. It created problems, and perhaps Mary's mother knew she was grasping at straws.

In this period, Charles V was still alive, at least before 1380, and Charles VI hadn't gone mad yet, so crushing the Burgundians and dominating the council are anarchronisms. Charles V was actually plotting a marriage to the Hungarians, as Louis was intended to marry Mary's sister Catherine, but she died in 1378. But by time Elizabeth of Bosnia suggested the match between Mary and Louis she was... well, she was desperate. Quite. So desperate that she wasn't about to let a schism stand in the way of a match she desired, and had the Antipope (in Avignon) annul Mary's betrothal to Sigismund. Needless to say, the Hungarian nobles revolted against this, as they adhered to Urban, and to Rome.

You need the match earlier than 1384. No Polish-Hungarian Union. The Poles already chose Jadwiga; they had tired of rule under the Capetians.

Also, I don't think there's anything wrong with his marriage questions.. they just need to be more elaborated. A creative match can bring about all kinds of interesting worms.
 
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