What if Liberia was an American territory instead of a sovereign nation?

If there was a vote over whether to approach statehood, remain a territory or go independent, I imagine most would choose to remain a territory. Look at Puerto Rico. Too much pork and trade links to just sever themselves, not enough political will anywhere to go for independence or statehood.

Note that they were given independence by the company that owned the lands- the US government was not technically involved.

Actually, they pretty much just declared independence and the American Colonization Society had no way of stopping it, since it had no official backing from the government.

The problem which sparked the independence movement is that the American Colonization Society was attempting to collect tariffs on British trade goods coming into the colony. Britain looked the other way for a while, but after their merchants complained enough, they told the Society that, as a private organization, it had no right to levy taxes on British merchants. The people in the colonies depended on the tariff money as their entire source of revenue for economic development, and when the Society proved no longer able to provide it, they declared their independence so they could legally collect their own tariffs.
 
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Assuming that Liberia ended up as a protectorate of the USA, which might actually, IMVHO, work, then the territries that France and Britian gobbled up durring the Scramble for Africa might have been left alone, and Liberia would be bigger today.
 
I don't see the desire for Americans to go over in prospecting efforts to find the diamonds.

It is no different than Americans rushing to Georgia or California for gold. During the California gold rush many prospectors took a ship to Central America, crossed to the Pacific side, and then another ship to California. So an Atlantic trip to West Africa would not be so outrageous.

What could happen is that the ACS could use the rumor of diamond deposits to cause a rush. Give out rights to mine the area, then placing export tariffs on the shipping of diamonds from Liberia to the US or Europe, and then the ACS could use the money to fund their projects. This could ease the need for fund raising in support of the ACS.
 
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Anyway, I think that the indigenous population wouldn't be discriminated against too much, especially considering that the majority of the American settlers would have been blacks fleeing discrimination in the mainland US.

Hard to assume bearing in mind that the natives were discriminated too much by a republic of black Americans in OTL. I don't see how a white governor would make it anything better.
 
Hard to assume bearing in mind that the natives were discriminated too much by a republic of black Americans in OTL. I don't see how a white governor would make it anything better.

A class/caste system may develop.

White Americo-Liberians
Black Americo-Liberians
Indigenous Liberians

This could be worse for the indigenous peoples. The Black Americo-Liberians would, effectively, be the middle class in this scheme whom would not want to lose what power they have. The white americo-liberians would want to keep the power structure in their favor and support the rights of the black americo-liberians.
 
The only problem with that idea is that malaria and all sorts of nasty tropical diseases are endemic to the region. This is why not many whites ever moved to Western Africa during the Colonial period. There was a ridiculously high chance of dying, and people don't want to go to a place where they get an automatic death sentence. I doubt there would be many White Liberians because of the disease story.
 
It is no different than Americans rushing to Georgia or California for gold. During the California gold rush many prospectors took a ship to Central America, crossed to the Pacific side, and then another ship to California. So an Atlantic trip to West Africa would not be so outrageous.

What could happen is that the ACS could use the rumor of diamond deposits to cause a rush. Give out rights to mine the area, then placing export tariffs on the shipping of diamonds from Liberia to the US or Europe, and then the ACS could use the money to fund their projects. This could ease the need for fund raising in support of the ACS.

i have to disagree with you on this one, because for the most part, people moving to California went by land across the nation, and not around S.A. Then also you have the development of transportation to California, that you can't have to Liberia. If you argue about the later gold rush, you may have a point, but even Alaska, is far closer then Liberia.
 
After reading the responses to my question about Libera being a US territory, I thought I would give my five cents to this discussion.

Since Liberia was created for freed blacks, there may be laws to limit if not discourage whites from moving to that territory. The initial political system would likely be a territorial governor appointed by the President and a territorial legislature elected by the residents of Liberia. In the beginning, the governors would be white and from the continental US. Other than the governor and his staff, the white presence would probably be limited to a couple of Army forts, naval ships and essential industry.

After Liberia established itself as a country in OTL, the True Whig Party emerged as the dominant and literally, the only legal political party (the True Whigs won every presidential election from 1878 until William Tolbert was overthrown and executed in 1980 by the Liberian armed forces).

I believe that the dominant party in Liberia would be the Whigs until the late 1850s. No way would Americo-Liberians support Democrats as they were dominated by slave owners and Southern (secessionist) politicians.

When the Civil War begins, many Liberian men would want to fight in the Union army in whatever roles would be appropriate for them.

During Reconstruction, the Radical Republicans dominating Congress may push for minor changes in Liberia's political system, such as appointing a (black) resident of Liberia to the governorship and allowing the election of nonvoting delegates to the US House of Representatives.

There would still be institutional discrimation by the Americo-Liberians against the indigenous population as in OTL (for example: forcing them to sit in the back pews in church, banning them from Masonic temples, forbid marriages between the two groups).

When Liberians hear stories about segregation and Jim Crow laws in the south, moves may be made to give the vote to all residents of the territory (and ensure Republican party dominance in Liberia).

If Theodore Roosevelt become President, he might have the law changed so that Liberians can elect their own governors (changing status from territory to commonwealth, just like Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands). When Roosevelt leaves office and embarks on his hunting trip to Africa, he may add Liberia to his itinerary.

In OTL, most Americo-Liberians had jobs in government (either elected office or patronage positions) and very few of them owned their own businesses. A lot of mom and pop stores in Monrovia were owned by Lebanese families who hired the indigenous blacks. Liberia's armed forces were dominated by the indigenous blacks. It is no surprise when the military had enough in 1980, stormed William Tolbert's presidential mansion, and brutally murdered him).

With FDR in the White House, Liberia would be a recipient of the New Deal. Public works programs would lead to the development of infrastructure and a modern highway system. When the US enters World War II, the member of Liberia's various ethnic groups would enlist en masse. In OTL, black Americans switched their political loyalties to the Democrats. So would the Liberians ITTL.

We might see a middle class emerge from the various tribes that would shift political control from the Americo-Liberians by the 1950s or 1960s. Multiple political parties would result, e.g. Democrats, Republicans, Socialists, pro-statehood, independence, pro-commonwealth.

Monrovia emerges as a popular tourist destination and port of call for many cruise ships instead of being mired in riots, child soldiers and lack of electricity.
 
POD John Floyd wins his battle to abolish slavery in Virginia.

1837-47 Thousands of newly freedman are transported to the Liberian colony.
As a result discrimination against the indigenous population increases.

More Amero-Liberians means a much more aggressive and expansionistic Liberia leading to confrontation with Britain and France.

Independence, I have no idea. Maybe if America tries to restrain Liberian territiorial expansion that could create an independence movement.

Liberia would become a single party unless stronger democratic institutions developed as a result of more freedmen settling in Liberia.

New Deal effects depends to a large extent on the relationship with the US.
 
I highly doubt that Liberia would ever become a state, due to it being out of America's direct sphere of influence, the racial make up of it, and the fact that its on another continent. On the other hand, if America retains control of Liberia, I could easily see it becoming a protectorate or commonwealth. I agree with Sovereign12's assesment of the class system of Liberia. There would almost certainly end up being a white american governor general of some sort with a small group of white senior administrators, as given the racial attitudes of the 19th century blacks were seen as being incapable of governing their own affairs. But given, how the coast colonies were disease ridden deathtraps for whites, the white population would remain very samll. The settled American blacks, would form the middle class and make up most of the administration. Though they would want access to the senior most positions of government, they would be fearful of the native majority getting too much influence. The ultimate fate of Liberia probably depends on how sizable this group becomes as when decolonization comes in to vogue, the native Liberians will be screaming for Americans of all colors to leave.If sizable enough Liberia will probably remain like Puerto Rico, otherwise I wouldn't be surprised if there is a lengthy and violent independence struggle.

Economically, I would imagine that an American Liberia would see an earlier exploitation of its vast natural resources. Though a diamond rush will probably bring in the most settlers, most development would probably come from the rubber industry (as in OTL) and the mining of Liberia's vast iron reserves. It would probably take a world war though, to see America locate any degree in substantial industry in Liberia.
 
Anyway, I think that the indigenous population wouldn't be discriminated against too much, especially considering that the majority of the American settlers would have been blacks fleeing discrimination in the mainland US.
You are not terribly familiar with Liberian history are you?

In addition to the numbers who really did not want to head back to Africa and the numbers that tended to die, the original settlers recreated the Dixie lifestyle to the degree that there was already sonsiderable anamocity between the 'civilized' Americos and 'saage/heathen' Africans. At best the Exodusters would be a third faction at odds with both.
If Liberia stayed America, chances are that more American settlement would occur, and they wouldn't demand independence, at least not the majority.
If you mean of the electorate, I suspect not (esp. if the federal government swallowed it's ego and granted statehood... with the hinterlands labled a great reservation). If nothing else the military backing in the face of European interlopers and African rebels would be a major motivation
I don't think that this would affect the British or French colonization very much, only a slightly more heightened awareness of the American colony.
True. If the Africans get enfranchised it will offer a different option for decolonization movements though.

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