What if Japan invades the Netherlands East Indies only (no Pearl Harbor)

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What if: Japan invades Netherlands East Indies only (no Pearl Harbor)

We know that on December 7th 1941, Japanese bombers launched an attack on Pearl Harbor, officially drawing the United States into World War II. After the attack, American forces battled in the Pacific and European fronts, lending aid to Allied soldiers at Normandy and other notable battles while fending off Japan’s forces on the other side of the globe. It was a difficult fight that resulted in the deaths of over 400,000 American soldiers, including the over 2,400 who perished at Pearl Harbor.

But how would things have been different had the harbor been left alone and Japan never launched its attack and instead focusing on invading the Netherlands East Indies, a scenario that Japan never really consider doing but might have been wise to do so.

So the Japanese invasion of the Netherlands East Indies begins on December 15th 1941 when naval and air units of the empire of Japan suddenly and deliberately attack the Royal Netherlands Navy squadron based at Batavia in the Netherlands East Indies (present-day Indonesia). They destroy or damage three cruisers (HNLMS Java, HNLMS De Ruyter, HNLMS Tromp) and eight destroyers belonging to the Admiralen-class, leaving fifty-five-year-old Vice Adm. Conrad Emil Lambert Helfrich with only twenty submarines and numerous but frail torpedo boats with which to retaliate. Shortly thereafter the Japanese Sixteenth Army invades the Netherlands portion of the island of Borneo—scrupulously avoiding portions administered by the United Kingdom— then rapidly follows up with attacks on Java, Sumatra, Sulawesi, and other major islands in the East Indies archipelago. The puny Royal Netherlands East Indies Army garrisons are swiftly overrun, the Royal Netherlands Navy bases at Batavia and Surabaya quickly fall, and by the end of February 1942, Japan has secured the Netherlands East Indies’ cornucopia of petroleum, natural gas, tin, manganese, copper, nickel, bauxite, and coal.

The Japanese government had taken the first step toward an attack on the East Indies in July 1941, when it demanded and received from Vichy France the right to station troops, construct airfields, and base warships in southern Indochina. The German invasion of the Soviet Union the previous month had removed any threat from that direction and cleared the way for a thrust southward. The southward move, in turn, was predicated on Japan’s desire to secure enough natural resources to become self-sufficient. It was dangerously dependent on America for scrap iron, steel, and above all oil: 80 percent of its petroleum came from the United States. President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s administration had been attempting for years to use economic sanctions as leverage to force Japan to abandon its invasion of China. As expected, the move into southern Indochina triggered a total freeze of Japanese assets in the United States and a complete oil embargo.

Japanese leaders initially assume that if they proceed with their intention to grab the Netherlands East Indies, the inevitable consequence will be war with both the British Commonwealth and the United States. Consequently, plans also include attacks on British bases at Singapore and Hong Kong, American bases in the Philippine Islands, and even the forward base of the United States Pacific Fleet at Pearl Harbor. Careful review of the British and American situations, however, prompts a reconsideration by Japan’s planners. They conclude that the beleaguered British cannot afford to add Japan to their existing adversaries, Nazi Germany and fascist Italy. Britain especially cannot do so without a guarantee that the United States will enter a war with Japan. And although the Roosevelt administration might engage in threats, American public opinion is so averse to war that the president has been unable to persuade the country to enter the fight against the Nazis despite their conquest of most of Europe. Indeed, a July 1941 bill to extend the nation’s peacetime draft—which the Roosevelt administration deemed fundamental to United States national security—passed by a single vote. The revised Japanese plan therefore contemplates an attack on the Dutch East Indies alone, albeit with most of the Imperial Japanese Navy held in reserve should either Great Britain or the United States declare war. Events completely vindicate Japan’s gamble. British prime minister Winston Churchill reinforces Singapore but otherwise adopts a defensive posture in Southeast Asia. Already thwarted in his efforts to make the case for war against Hitler’s Germany, neither Roosevelt nor his advisers can think of a rationale persuasive enough to convince the public that American boys should fight and die because the Japanese have overrun an obscure European colony.

How plausible is this scenario? There is little doubt that Japan could have swiftly defeated the Netherlands and seized the East Indies in mid December 1941. Even when (as occurred historically) the Americans, British, and Australians added their available warships to the defense of the Netherlands colony, the Japanese had little trouble overrunning the entire archipelago by March 1942. The harder question to answer definitively is what course Britain and America actually would have pursued if Japan had bypassed their Pacific possessions and also, of course, refrained from an air strike against Pearl Harbor. The British plainly could not have sustained such a war without American help. True, Great Britain and the United States had been steadily making common cause against Nazi Germany. The United States Congress had passed the Lend-Lease Act in March 1941, and United States Navy destroyers had begun escorting convoys bound for Great Britain to the mid-Atlantic before handing them off to their British counterparts. In August, Churchill and Roosevelt had met for a secret conference in the waters off Newfoundland, a summit that had included military as well as diplomatic discussions. And by the autumn of 1941, the United States Navy Navy was engaged in an undeclared but lethal war with German U-boats. Cooperation to prepare for a conflict with Japan, however, was considerably less advanced. At the Atlantic Conference, the British had given the Americans text for a proposed warning to Japan to be sent jointly by Great Britain, the Netherlands, and the United States, stating that if Japan pursued further aggression in Southeast Asia, the three countries “would be compelled to take counter measures even though these might lead to war.” Roosevelt agreed to make such a stern statement— but unilaterally, not jointly—and as matters turned out, the president told the Japanese ambassador merely that if Japan struck southward, he would take steps “toward insuring the safety and security of the United States.” As the crisis with Japan deepened, Roosevelt’s top military advisers told him that while they preferred a less provocative diplomatic line toward Japan, the United States could not stand by if the Japanese struck American, British, or Netherlands possessions and would have no choice but to take military action in that case. Privately Roosevelt agreed, and on December 1st he told the British ambassador that in the event Japan attacked the Netherlands East Indies or British possessions in Southeast Asia, “we should all be in this together.” When the ambassador pressed him to be specific, Roosevelt replied that the British could count on “armed support” from the United States. But the president also worried about his ability to do so if American possessions continued to be spared by the Japanese.

As historian David Reynolds points out, “Roosevelt could only propose war; Congress had to declare it. From a purely diplomatic point of view, Pearl Harbor was therefore a godsend.” It would have been difficult to persuade Congress that an attack upon the Netherlands East Indies alone demanded a military response; it might well have proved impossible. In the end the dilemma never arose because the Japanese never considered such an alternative strategy. Once the Japanese government decided that it must seize the natural resources of the Netherlands East Indies, it never seriously considered any plan but a simultaneous attack against the British and the United States in the Pacific. This decision was driven overwhelmingly by operational considerations: Japan’s military planners believed they could not run the risk of leaving the American air and naval bases in the Philippines athwart their line of communications with the East Indies. For that reason they concluded the Philippines must be captured as well. Ironically, by refusing to run such an operational risk, they wound up taking an even larger strategic risk, for the attack on Pearl Harbor was premised on the highly tenuous assumption of a short war with the United States followed by a negotiated peace that would allow Japan to keep its territorial gains. Japan bet that American public opinion would never countenance a prolonged and bloody Pacific war and that the combination of the blow to the United States Navy at Pearl Harbor and Japan’s erection of a hermetic defensive perimeter in the Central and South Pacific would convince America to throw in the towel. As actual events subsequently showed, that was a poor bet.
 

SsgtC

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Not at all plausible IMO. There is no way that the UK would NOT declare war on Japan if they attacked the DEI. Why would they let a country they are allies with, in a war they are already fighting, get attacked by a country that is allied to the very country they are already fighting?

As for the US, they had already imposed a total embargo on Japan when they occupied French Indochina. Also, US public opinion, while wanting to stay out of yet another European war, felt it was only a matter of time before we'd have to fight to Japanese. So if Japan had only attacked the DEI, they still would have ended up in a war with the UK and the US. Except they'd be in a much weaker position to prosecute said war as both Empires would have intact fleets and bases literally in Japan's backyard.
 
Militarily speaking the RNLN is best of losing the surface units. That means that Helfrich and the rest of the navalist gun-lobby have no choice but use the submarines as main strike force, something the RNLN had actually been training for the whole interbellum. Of course this still means that the DEI get's taken over but the damage will be heavier than OTL.
 

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Militarily speaking the RNLN is best of losing the surface units. That means that Helfrich and the rest of the navalist gun-lobby have no choice but use the submarines as main strike force, something the RNLN had actually been training for the whole interbellum. Of course this still means that the DEI get's taken over but the damage will be heavier than OTL.
For the Japanese ore the Netherlands.
 
For the Japanese ore the Netherlands.

In the short term for the Japanese. If we look at the OTL DEI campaign there was not a single IJN troopship sunk. The whole ABDA force was destroyed with next to no damage to the IJN. With a submarine approach there is a much, much higher chance of sinking at least part of the invasion force.

Long-term the RNLN is screwed of course.
 

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In the short term for the Japanese. If we look at the OTL DEI campaign there was not a single IJN troopship sunk. The whole ABDA force was destroyed with next to no damage to the IJN. With a submarine approach there is a much, much higher chance of sinking at least part of the invasion force.

Long-term the RNLN is screwed of course.
The British while neutral might help the DEI.
 
I like the concept. It has been debated on here before the likelihood of American intervention in such a scenario (Most are Japan attacks Britain+Netherlands).

It increases the chances of a compromise peace later without a Pearl Harbor, with USA entering because of its own choices.

Here is what happens though. USA won't DOW right away, will reinforce Philippines (stuff is already on the way OTL). USA will also reinforce Free French islands, do a bases deal like those in the Atlantic with British Pacific possessions, might even send a couple of divisions to Australia to train. Burma road is still open, Chinese supplies increased, Flying Tigers expanded (and no one cares about the sketchy financing).

Stage 2 about Feb 42: Declares all traffic out of the ex Dutch colonies contraband and will seize all merchants leaving there to enforce this added embargo (merchant crews to be released). Congress agrees to this escalation. Japan has to start to naval escort convoys to the Dutch colonies.

Stage 3: March 20th, at a ceremony with the South Dakota being commissioned. USA announces it will intercept and attack if apposed escorted Japanese vessels leaving the ex Dutch colonies.
 

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I like the concept. It has been debated on here before the likelihood of American intervention in such a scenario (Most are Japan attacks Britain+Netherlands).

It increases the chances of a compromise peace later without a Pearl Harbor, with USA entering because of its own choices.

Here is what happens though. USA won't DOW right away, will reinforce Philippines (stuff is already on the way OTL). USA will also reinforce Free French islands, do a bases deal like those in the Atlantic with British Pacific possessions, might even send a couple of divisions to Australia to train. Burma road is still open, Chinese supplies increased, Flying Tigers expanded (and no one cares about the sketchy financing).

Stage 2 about Feb 42: Declares all traffic out of the ex Dutch colonies contraband and will seize all merchants leaving there to enforce this added embargo (merchant crews to be released). Congress agrees to this escalation. Japan has to start to naval escort convoys to the Dutch colonies.

Stage 3: March 20th, at a ceremony with the South Dakota being commissioned. USA announces it will intercept and attack if apposed escorted Japanese vessels leaving the ex Dutch colonies.
Stage 4, Japan decides to launch a surprise attack on the United states naval base in Hawaii in responds to the United States economic embargo.
 

SsgtC

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Stage 4, Japan decides to launch a surprise attack on the United states naval base in Hawaii in responds to the United States economic embargo.
Stage 5: the US is expecting just such an attack and slaughters it 100 miles off shore while the fully intact and reinforced battle line, which had sortied the night before, closes to gun range under the cover of the American carriers who launch their own attack on the virtually defenseless Kido Butai
 
Stage 3: March 20th, at a ceremony with the South Dakota being commissioned. USA announces it will intercept and attack if apposed escorted Japanese vessels leaving the ex Dutch colonies.
I think the better stage 3 is simply to start allowing RN and RNLN SS to refuel and rearm from any US bases after all why not its just more LL.....and if helpful B17s practice scouting IJN convoys using uncoded transmissions why is that our problem?

Then stage 4 is the USN Sub force getting involved totally unofficially supporting them....
 
I will add that by then USN DDs are dropping depth charges on suspected contacts in the Atlantic. This will force the Japanese to invade the PIs within a couple of months by the time you have helpfully fully mobilized and fortified hopefully.
 

Ian_W

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The British while neutral might help the DEI.

The bigger danger for the Japanese is the British being at war with them and the Americans helping the Allies while being neutral.

Shadowing Japanese navy ships with Catalinas while broadcasting their own location in clear would be an obvious step.
 
The bigger issue would be how the American could let the Japanese secure the land grab in DEI, with reference to the British and France letting Hilter taking the Czech Republic. In the event of American intervention, there might be battles of the Coral Sea and Leyte Gulf in late 1942 and beyond. With shortened nautical distance, could the Japanese navy avoid in this ATL the disasters in the OTL at Midway and the defeat in the Leyte Gulf?
 
I like the concept. It has been debated on here before the likelihood of American intervention in such a scenario (Most are Japan attacks Britain+Netherlands).

It increases the chances of a compromise peace later without a Pearl Harbor, with USA entering because of its own choices.

Here is what happens though. USA won't DOW right away, will reinforce Philippines (stuff is already on the way OTL). USA will also reinforce Free French islands, do a bases deal like those in the Atlantic with British Pacific possessions, might even send a couple of divisions to Australia to train. Burma road is still open, Chinese supplies increased, Flying Tigers expanded (and no one cares about the sketchy financing).

Stage 2 about Feb 42: Declares all traffic out of the ex Dutch colonies contraband and will seize all merchants leaving there to enforce this added embargo (merchant crews to be released). Congress agrees to this escalation. Japan has to start to naval escort convoys to the Dutch colonies.

Stage 3: March 20th, at a ceremony with the South Dakota being commissioned. USA announces it will intercept and attack if apposed escorted Japanese vessels leaving the ex Dutch colonies.

Step one would follow the example of the Atlantic and establish a extended neutrality zone around the Philippines. Large enough the Japanese with be discomfited by the need to detour, and the hotheaded officers angered by the action. Note that this situation of no DoW on the US does not waive away the War Warnings of 25-27 November. Those instructed US commanders in the Pacific to consider and Japanese force within striking distance of US territory to be hostile and authorized the commanders to attack hostile forces without further consultation or authorization with higher authority. In other words Japanse naval commanders who want to play 'Dare Ya' with the US Neutrality Zone or forces cane attacked imeadiatly.

All that is liable to have the US at war with Japan before Step 2 & 3 are reached.
 
In the short term for the Japanese. If we look at the OTL DEI campaign there was not a single IJN troopship sunk. ...

Hm... Perhaps this version of the naval battle of Balikpapan is wrong? http://www.microworks.net/pacific/battles/balikpapan.htm It does match other versions in assorted books, including the USN history of the Pacific war. Strictly speaking not "troop ships, but they were part o the amphibious force for securing the refineries at Balikpapan & valuable Japanese oil industry engineers and technicians were killed.

1. Transport sunk by Dutch air attack 25 January

2. Tsuruga Maru a cargo ship torpedoed by submarine KXVIII

3. Cargo ship Sumanoru Maru hit by US torpedoes from destroyer attack

4. Ammunition ship Tatsukami Maru exploded after torpedoed by destroyer attack.

5. Kuretake Maru sunk by destroyer torpedo attack

6. Tsuruga Maru hit again by US destroyer torpedo & sinks

I can't recall which of these ships carried the oil industry engineers and technicians and their equipment. A number of those were lost along with the tools and other items for restoring the refinery. Possibly the Kuretake Maru?
 
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Stage 4, Japan decides to launch a surprise attack on the United states naval base in Hawaii in responds to the United States economic embargo.

Stage 5: the US is expecting just such an attack and slaughters it 100 miles off shore while the fully intact and reinforced battle line, which had sortied the night before, closes to gun range under the cover of the American carriers who launch their own attack on the virtually defenseless Kido Butai

300nm offshore, about the effective range of the light and medium bombers available then & their fighter escorts. By this point the US military has sorted out the last minute preparations for war & things like the radar air warning system are stood up, increased long range air patrols, increased submarine patrols, all anti air weapons deployed with ammunition, ect...
 

Ian_W

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The bigger issue would be how the American could let the Japanese secure the land grab in DEI, with reference to the British and France letting Hilter taking the Czech Republic. In the event of American intervention, there might be battles of the Coral Sea and Leyte Gulf in late 1942 and beyond. With shortened nautical distance, could the Japanese navy avoid in this ATL the disasters in the OTL at Midway and the defeat in the Leyte Gulf?

They are more likely to be faced with a heavily reinforced Philippines across their line of communications, which will act more or less like the running sore that was Guadacanal.
 
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Here is what happens though. USA won't DOW right away, will reinforce Philippines (stuff is already on the way OTL). ...

A cargo ship convoy escorted by the USS Pensacola was to depart the US in December & arrive in the PI in January. It was carrying ammunition and arms for the PI Army, engineering equipment, items for the US Far Eastern Air Force, & other essentials for the PI & US armies. OTL the convoy was canceled & some of the ships and material redirected to the DEI. In this case the US can reinforce the convoy escort and send it straight though to PI. If the Japanese attempt a intercept it will be act of war & occur after several weeks of preparation by US forces in the PI, Hawaii, Wake...
 
Hm... Perhaps this version of the naval battle of Balikpapan is wrong? http://www.microworks.net/pacific/battles/balikpapan.htm It does match other versions in assorted books, including the USN history of the Pacific war. Strictly speaking not "troop ships, but they were part o the amphibious force for securing the refineries at Balikpapan & valuable Japanese oil industry engineers and technicians were killed.

FAKE NEWS! :D

My apologies Carl, I should have been more precise in my comment. The battle of Balikpapan was a extraordinary feat from the USN, especially in this period of the war. The MLD (RNLN air service), the submarine service and hell, even the ML-KNIL (Military Airservice Royal Netherlans Indies Army) had some succes.

The surface forces of the RNLN however, didn't sink any Japanese ships whatsoever, let alone the all important troopships. Look at the Battle of the Java Sea, 2 CL and 3 DD sunk and what was there to show for it? Those 2,300 sailors could have been put to better use fighting the Japanese invasion force on Java.

Dutch naval doctrine between 1919 and 1936 was right on the money: a Dutch surface fleet will never be able to do serious damage to a Japanese invasion fleet. Chances of succes are much, much higher if submarine task forces are employed. That is what the RNLN trained for the whole interbellum. It might not have been a war-winning strategy but it sure as hell was better than the pipe-dreams of OTL.
 
The surface forces of the RNLN however, didn't sink any Japanese ships whatsoever, let alone the all important troopships. Look at the Battle of the Java Sea, 2 CL and 3 DD sunk and what was there to show for it? Those 2,300 sailors could have been put to better use fighting the Japanese invasion force on Java.

Long Lances are a bitch Java sea though was basically a running inconclusive gun duel until a torpedo salvo tore into the Dutch fleet
 
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