What if HMS Resistance was completed as a Renown class battlecruiser

One or two of The Follies would have to be sacrificed, which to paraphrase 1066 And All That, would have been a good thing.

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TBH i'd want the follies for aircraft carriers and have one other if possible rather than converting Admiral Cochrane into Eagle.

I can't see immediate post WW1 purpose built carriers being much bigger than Hermes otherwise.
 
TBH i'd want the follies for aircraft carriers and have one other if possible rather than converting Admiral Cochrane into Eagle.
It depends upon when the POD is.

If a Fourth Folly had been ordered at the same time as the OTL ships and laid down in the second half of 1915 it would probably be approaching the launching stage at about the same time that the decision to convert Almirante Cochrane to an aircraft carrier was made IOTL it's quite likely that it would be selected for conversion in preference to the Chilean battleship.

It would have about the same displacement as Eagle, be faster and carry twice as many aircraft.
 
Pull the guns, convert Resistance to a carrier, use those guns for an earlier Vanguard. The RN isn’t short of fast battleships once the KGV class start coming online, but carriers are needed.
If you already have Resistance its better to skip Vanguard altogether in favour of 1 or 2 extra new carriers.

Depending on only one spare 15" turret being available in 1939, with thanks to NOMISYRRUC for the list*, we can skip building one of the Roberts Class Monitors as well to free up the necessary slipway at John Brown, Clydebank or Vickers-Armstrong, Tyneside.

(*We might need to think about the turret count here. HMS Roberts used a turret re-cycled from Marshal Soult. HMS Abercrombie, had a turret built as a spare in case of a failure in Furious 18". Marshal Ney never used her turret in action and it was transplanted to Erebus or Terror. Which I think NOMISYRRUC means you have the right number of turrets constructed, but not necessarily the correct dispositions. It all depends on whether the Follies are built, and how. In a case of no Follies and just the turrets for Resistance and enough for the WW1 Monitors being built there will only be 53 completed.)
 
Hood was really expensive, or was that inflation after the war?
Interesting to know that two Tigers cost nearly as much as three Iron Dukes. Speed is expensive...
Wartime inflation for hood.

Yeah speed was expensive. We don't see it on that chart but the difference in cost between the QEs and R class was actually not that much which means something given the amount of inflation in building costs during wartime and the R class being later than the QEs.

Fried man's the British battleship suggests that Britain could have built 4 Queen Elizabeth class or 5 R class when ordering the R class. The Queen Elizabeth option was considered but rejected because 4 ships for the same cost as 5 was not good value.
 

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Also remember that speed generally leads to more resources being needed.

Fundamentally the Hood was carrying the same main armaments of the Queen Elizabeth class, with slightly less armour. To get reach 30 knots, it was almost as large as an Iowa-class and was the largest warship at the time when completed.

The Kongo class carried lighter armament than the Nagatos, but were heavier and longer.
 
Also remember that speed generally leads to more resources being needed.

Fundamentally the Hood was carrying the same main armaments of the Queen Elizabeth class, with slightly less armour. To get reach 30 knots, it was almost as large as an Iowa-class and was the largest warship at the time when completed.

The Kongo class carried lighter armament than the Nagatos, but were heavier and longer.

Kongo is neither longer or heavier than Nagato as commissioned.

http://www.navypedia.org/ships/japan/jap_bb_kongo.htm

http://www.navypedia.org/ships/japan/jap_bb_nagato.htm
 
Wartime inflation for hood.

Yeah speed was expensive. We don't see it on that chart but the difference in cost between the QEs and R class was actually not that much which means something given the amount of inflation in building costs during wartime and the R class being later than the QEs.

Fried man's the British battleship suggests that Britain could have built 4 Queen Elizabeth class or 5 R class when ordering the R class. The Queen Elizabeth option was considered but rejected because 4 ships for the same cost as 5 was not good value.

In the case of the QEs, the design was overweight, so they could only do 24kn as opposed to their 25kn design speed.

On top of that, it was discovered that a battleship that's faster than the rest of the 21 kn line but too slow to sail with the battlecruisers can't really make use of the extra speed.
 
Wartime inflation for hood.

Yeah speed was expensive. We don't see it on that chart but the difference in cost between the QEs and R class was actually not that much which means something given the amount of inflation in building costs during wartime and the R class being later than the QEs.

Fried man's the British battleship suggests that Britain could have built 4 Queen Elizabeth class or 5 R class when ordering the R class. The Queen Elizabeth option was considered but rejected because 4 ships for the same cost as 5 was not good value.
I find looking at the armoured cruisers and pre-dreads more illuminating for these kinds of comparisons. It is a more natural environment not distorted by wars or WNTs. But yeah. Speed is expensive.
 
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