What if Hitler was not insane?

King Thomas

Banned
And was content to take Germany, Austria, and then stop there. Would Germany and Austria still be Nazi now or would they have librilized like Spain did in OTL?
 

skorpion123

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Why stop there and not with Germany having Czechoslovakia and Half Poland ? Even after taking france there was a chance to get peace with the British.
 
He might not be so much insane, as very, very angry all the time. If the Reich didn't start WWII.. I don't know, they had some weird ideology that called for taking vast tracks of land for the German people to colonize. I don't know how it could liberalize, since all the liberals (and anyone else who the Nazis deem as undesirable) would be dead.
 
You're being very vague about what Hitlers insanity was.

Do you mean that he is not an anti-semite( or at least not to nearly the same extent) ?

Anyway if he followed the same path up till the annexation of Austria then the German economy will face severe difficulties if the war does not happen.
 

skorpion123

Banned
if Hitler did not consider war with Russia as easilly winnable and as his sacred duty because he considered Russians and Slavs as Inferior human beings , and he avoided his anti-jewism then things would certainly go better for Nazi Germany.
 
if Hitler did not consider war with Russia as easilly winnable and as his sacred duty because he considered Russians and Slavs as Inferior human beings , and he avoided his anti-jewism then things would certainly go better for Nazi Germany.

Not necissarily, Hitler certainly needs to tackle the threat of Russia to the East or else his flank is fucked; much of his hatred that way was of communism which ironicaly without which he wouldn't have been in power. People in Germany and even western countries (A big reason for appeasment) expected him to take on Russia or at least act like a bulwark.

Moraly his anti-semitism is a good thing and frees up manpower, but also was effected by his early life and his anti-semantic ideology was popular.
 
if Hitler did not consider war with Russia as easilly winnable and as his sacred duty because he considered Russians and Slavs as Inferior human beings , and he avoided his anti-jewism then things would certainly go better for Nazi Germany.

True but this radically alters Nazi ideology.
 
Well if Hitler didn't provide scapegoats in the Jews, and pander to the Germans egos, Ayran super race, as if, then he'd be a better person, but would he really manage to get the sort of support he OTL?

Sure the political centre will like his new views, but he wouldn't get the same rabid support he got from the far-right OTL, so could he have done it without them?
 

skorpion123

Banned
you can call the slavs/Russians as inferior beings but not let that influence your assessment of the capabilities of Russia or the Russians in general.

Thankfully for the world Hitler's ideology did have an influence to his underestimation of the Russians capabilities.


Now if the Germans did invade Russia.

The problem would be that when the Germans seized control of several areas like Ukraine , that if they continued their racist pollicy they could not use the population to aid their war effort. Instead in reality their brutal barbaric sadism gave rise to the Russian resolve and they made an enemy out of the Ukranians , Partisan troops where a problem to the German military effort for as long they where in Russia. And that was a problem actually in most Nazist controlled areas.

Another problem that had to do with their ideology was the fact that aggressive war and cruel , sadist occupation leads to the population resisting.




True but this radically alters Nazi ideology.
Indeed. It also makes Hitler as "not insane" . Though on several matters strategic assessment did came first and ideology second. So he was not insane at all strategic decisions he made , but insane enough he was.
 
In my opinion, Hitler was insane from birth. Some mental problem, perhaps? Then again, I'm not the Hitler biographer.
 

hammo1j

Donor
Crazy as this sounds the Fuhrer was one of the pioneers of Crystal Meth as seen by his tweaker hand in the last footage of him back in '45.

Maybe the POD is that he does not meet the Doktor who injected him daily with his Methamphetamine.
 
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