What if Hitler was a Homosexual/bi-sexual (Serious thread)

Your intent isn't really relevant to it. I know that's a very blunt way of saying it, but right now one of the big complaints on this board seems to be "WI Hitler X" and the previous gay Hitler thread got locked. Doing something that you know will produce a certain response isn't okay if you add the disclaimer that you didn't intend the response that you know will happen.

As for whether it would impact the queer community, it would only be brought up and used as an accusation by the type of people who would nothing wrong with denying LGBT rights anyways, regardless of any Hitler-related actions. Heck, people accuse Hitler of being an atheist despite the fact that killed atheists (and other opponents of the quasi-Christian state religion) and say that Hitler believed in evolution even though he banned Origin of the Species. Vegetarians and non-smokers also seem to do fine despite Hitler's pro-stance on those issues. The type of people who try to demonize their opponents with Hitler comparisons are not looking for evidence but rationalization. They would be against LGBT rights no matter what Hitler did.

Finally, don't be stupid yourself. Hitler would never have gotten into power if he was a seaplane. Without hands, he would have never been able to write Mein Kampf after the Beer Hall Putsch and his political influence would only have extended to the immediate party members. Rudolph Hess might have helped Hitler write Mein Kampf, but Rudolph Hess has been historically noted as a very bad secretary and probably would have added numerous errors to the book. Plus, Hitler would never have been able to fit through the doorways of the Parliament Building, which would have made him ineligible to being elected.

LOLs, I'm sorry but nuremburg rally with a seaplane is hilarious
 
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Suppose Hittler is day and acknowledges it at least to himself? When in power little effort is made to inforcs sodamy laws. Since Jews were already being scapegoated anti-gay is not politicaly necessary. The Storm Troopers arn't disbanded gay roomers or not. Once in a wile something leaks out about that man Hittler is seen with. Most people outside Germny brush it off as tabloid trash. When Roudlph Hess defects he tells debreefers that he thinks Hittler is gay. Wile this is hard to belive British Inteligence brings there profile up to date.
 
Finally, don't be stupid yourself. Hitler would never have gotten into power if he was a seaplane. Without hands, he would have never been able to write Mein Kampf after the Beer Hall Putsch and his political influence would only have extended to the immediate party members. Rudolph Hess might have helped Hitler write Mein Kampf, but Rudolph Hess has been historically noted as a very bad secretary and probably would have added numerous errors to the book. Plus, Hitler would never have been able to fit through the doorways of the Parliament Building, which would have made him ineligible to being elected.


Don't be troll. Obviously Hitler would not start out as a seaplane - rather he would be converted into a seaplane following horrific injuries sustained in the First World War. Obviously Hitler being a seaplane - as a visible sign of his sacrifice to the fatherland would be able to rally the masses to his side. He would also be able to barnstorm and campaign faster and harder than any previous German politician. Finally - he can also hang banners to his wings.
 
Hitler liking his sausage.....well think about it...

SS -all those black uniforms and kinky black boots
all that marching
men together and all that athletic posing.
Yup the nazi's were gay (might not have known it but they were)
 

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Could we please have an entire day without a Hitler thread being posted?

Hitler. Hitler. Hitler. Hitler. Hitler. Hitler. Hitler. Hitler. Hitler. Hitler. Hitler. Hitler.

This is what this forum is starting to look like.

Maybe Hitler could have a whole subforum all to himself. "Alternate Hitlery Discussion".
 
Since Hitler was born in 1889, wouldn't the POD for this be, you know, there? And thus in the Pre-1900 forum?
In any case- if he were homosexual, he would probably go nowhere in politics, be even more physically abused by his father, and just might be able to get into Art School (suck the professor's wang, get a letter of recommendation in return; good ol' patron-client system).
But, in seriousness, his different sexual orientation and likely more abusive home might provide him an even greater muse for his art, pouring his emotions into his drawings a la Van Gogh. This might be the push he needs to get into the Vienna arts academy; or, if not that, at least achieve some independent fame.
 
If Hitler was gay: in terms of actual historical events, I reckon it would have no impact whatsover. In terms of off-color humor, well, just a skim through this thread reveals that it wouldn't have had much of an impact on that either.


Impact on culture overall? See picture below [of guy wearing village people biker costume, the pic was too big so I tried to downsize it, then dumped it]: NO IMPACT WHATSOEVER.

(I mean, really, the Village People would not put a swastika on one of their band member outfits even if it was more historically relevant.)


Now, if Hitler was a seaplane, I don't see too much of an impact overall. After World War Two in OTL, mainstream airline usage veered sharply away from seaplane usage anyhow. Maybe in a Hitler-as-seaplane tl, the same trend would be partially attributed to Hitler by some commentators, and, as we know in otl, they'd be wrong.
 
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Well homosexuality was traditionally described by the French as the German disease and le mal Anglais was sadomosochistic practices. By the way I think it's thankfully been established that Homosexuality is not an illness! The founder of nazism Eric Rohm was certainly an out and about Homosexual and when Hitler was asked about that he said that was upto Rohm, himself! Rohm of course was ultimately murdered by his Nazi friends!
 

Sachyriel

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If Hitler was a queersexual and was open to himself and select others about it, maybe he makes it into Art School, or is kicked out of the army? :confused:
 
Well we all know Hitler was descended from a long line of English Queens ;)

And here's the thing... Hitler being a closeted homosexual (as opposed the whatever he was ((seriously, he's all over the map)) OTL) could possibly lead to a worse persecution against gays considering the complexes he had unless he was comfortable with his sexual identity (which imo is close to ASB considering how truly effed up the guy was). If the latter there might not be any pink triangles in the holocaust because Hitler had plenty of groups to demonize and wouldn't want to draw attention to himself.

One mildly interesting butterfly might be if Werner Von Fritsch is not forced out of the party in disgrace due to accusations of homosexuality.

The global butterfly is that gay rights and gay pride movements could be slowed due to not having such a centralizing / unifying icon as the pink triangle is and the whole discussion remaining low(er) key and more personal rather than becoming the political movements they are today.
 
Could we please have an entire day without a Hitler thread being posted?

Hitler. Hitler. Hitler. Hitler. Hitler. Hitler. Hitler. Hitler. Hitler. Hitler. Hitler. Hitler.

This is what this forum is starting to look like.

Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! LMAO. :D
 
Could we please have an entire day without a Hitler thread being posted?

Hitler. Hitler. Hitler. Hitler. Hitler. Hitler. Hitler. Hitler. Hitler. Hitler. Hitler. Hitler.

This is what this forum is starting to look like.

I'm starting to feel a bad History Channel vibe going on...

Alternate Hitler Dot Com... Hmm...

Another crusade in the the various subforums, perhaps ?
 
I'm starting to feel a bad History Channel vibe going on...

Alternate Hitler Dot Com... Hmm...

Another crusade in the the various subforums, perhaps ?

And you fix this problem by...

Reviving a hitler thread.

Have a cookie.
 
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