What if Hitler died in World War One?

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What if Hitler is shot when he goes over the top? Would there be anyone who might be able to lead the Nazis in the same direction as Hitler? Or would it more likely than the communists get into power? Wasn't there plans by the Nazi party to take over Bavaria and create their own nation however Hitler convinced them to take over the whole of Germany. Might it be without Hitler they try and take Bavaria. Could it be that Germany might fall into a civil war because of this? If there was civil war might either be like the Spanish Civil War or could this civil war start World War Two, perhaps the Britain and France support the German government while Russia supports the German communists or Nazis, or perhaps the Nazis are a third side to the war. What would happen?
 
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Most likely, no one gets to power. The republic did survive hyperinflation and several putsch attempts. I see no obvious reason why it couldn’t possibly survive the Great Depression.
Hitler managed to unite all ultra right under his banner and even to have the conservative tolerate him. Very difficult for everyone else, especially a radical.
 
One of those would happen, percentage based on my opinion:
1. Weimar republic survives (SPD+Zentrum+Nationalists) 17 % chance
2. Left takes power (SPD+KPD+Left liberals) 17 % chance
3. Strasser, Rohm take over Nazis and allies with KPD and take power as allies of USSR 33 % chance
4. Military coup prevents nazis, communists or both of them from taking power 33 % chance

Almost every ends with Germany not destroyed and occupied. But also with Germany that is an enemy of the West.
 
It is very possible that there will be a future war in Germany vs Poland anyway. Communists can win power or monarchy.
 
What if Hitler is shot when he goes over the top? Would there be anyone who might be able to lead the Nazis in the same direction as Hitler? Or would it more likely than the communists get into power?

Another one would have taken over the same path with the same tragic results for humanity. One person that becomes a leader always has followers as strong and convincing as the one who is the face of the group. Maybe WWII would have started differently, with Stalin doing the offensive and the rest of Europe fighting back as a team. That would have been a great alternative plotline for life in the 1950's without a cold war. And changed the 60's too.
 
I think Germany would be much like Poland and Hungary in this period after the Depression. Once Hindenberg dies, you probably get some kind of right wing authoritarian, but more military, government in place, which would likely push for the remilitarization of the Rhineland at the bare minimum.

But as for Nazism, you do need Hitler for that. His political skills were crucial in making it work, and his own personal ideology of mixing Pan-Germanic nationalism with welfare corporatism and vehement anti-Semitism and anti-Slavism was something that was uniquely suited for the period, something which I don't think his contemporaries were able to recreate.
 
Forget how ?
I mean that if Germany avoids Nazism and doesn't fall to Communism either, they will not be an enemy of the West. Not even if some sort of military government takes power after Weimar. The Soviets are seen as the bigger threat, remember how in OTL the Brits considered bombing the Baku oil fields when the Soviets invaded Poland. Or consider how West Germany was rearmed after WW2. I expect a similar thing to happen if the Soviets grow ever stronger.
 
Without Hitler, you don't have a leader obsessed with executing Jews and conquering Russia. Economic stresses will likely bring a war, but Germany would be more concerned with recovering some of the territory losses from the armistice: Alsace-Lorraine, Sudetenland, Polish Corridor, etc. If it does not involve Russia, it might end up in more of a draw, with millions of lives spared. Other ramifications: Stalin gets remembered as the most brutal dictator of the century; and Germany retains all of its rocket science. Will that be good or bad for progress? Will it mean satellites sooner or will it stifle space exploration without the rivalry or "space race" between the US and USSR?
 
Working on an alternate Great War with a Germany undefeated and a surviving monarchy I had to question the place for anti-Semitism generally and Nazism specifically. To me Nazism is Hitler's unique brainchild, without him the far-right and even a Fascist movement does not possess the same agenda or even ideology. For me the thornier issue is anti-Semitism, something I think will persist in European as well as German culture for some time. I am hopeful that the Jewish war veterans' service does indeed begin the erosion of German intolerance, fear and discrimination of Jews, I think the assimilation continues and within the following generation the issue is mute. The German Reform Party (Deutsche Reformpartei or DRP) would be the best analogue for a genuine right-wing party ideologically married to anti-Semitism, its election results show it is truly a fringe party, and although other right-wing parties took up the issue it is clearly a popular appeal that has less traction than we would assume by the later Nazi success. In this alternate Germany I think Judaism might provoke more distant jokes and insults but I see it being more the same snobbishness from above and ignorance from below, never more than an irritant and likely even extinct as a point of hate. I am not being generous or apologetic, the German Jewish populace appears to be generally less overtly religious and more neutral in being assimilated, these are a German people with a minority religion rather than a minority such as the Poles in Germany, and that argues for the melting of them into German society over time without the circumstances of defeat, Hitler and so forth.

To me it is interesting to consider the paths of historic figures but more difficult as one looks at the villainous, to paint them as something else may be accurate but feel disrespectful, it might be realistic to portray a Hitler who becomes a painter or secret police snitch, who never amounts to more than obscurity, but to me it is difficult to not also appear too forgiving of such persons and what they indeed stand for in our own history. So a dead Hitler might be best, not just for history, but for the alternatives too.
 
Another issue to remember is that anti-Semitism was a problem well beyond Germany. Look at the American actors who changed their names. If one saw the names Lawrence Feingold, with the Horowitz brothers: Jerome, Samuel and Harold Moses, one would cast them off as Jews. We laugh at them as Larry Fine, "Curly" Howard, "Shemp" Howard and Moe Howard. At the unacceptable expense of millions of lives, later generations saw sympathy. As the next wave of a modern consumer economy emerged in the fifies and sixties, would civil rights be applicable to Jews as much as it was to Blacks?
 
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