What if Greece and Romania joined the Entente at the same time?

It seems like a wasted opportunity for the allies for them to join less than a year apart, which was enough time for Romania to get crushed. What if Greece had its pro Entente faction win secure a declaration of war within weeks of Romania's entry, or Romania delayed their own entry the better part of a year, or they met somewhere in the middle?

Would near simultaneous Greek/Romanian entry save Romania or even Russia?
 

ben0628

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It seems like a wasted opportunity for the allies for them to join less than a year apart, which was enough time for Romania to get crushed. What if Greece had its pro Entente faction win secure a declaration of war within weeks of Romania's entry, or Romania delayed their own entry the better part of a year, or they met somewhere in the middle?

Would near simultaneous Greek/Romanian entry save Romania or even Russia?

No. If Romania joins it is completely surrounded on 3 sides by Bulgaria, Austria, and Austria occupied Serbia.

Although Greece and Romania joining at the same time would put Bulgaria in a strategically bad situation, Romania will have it's hands full in Transylvania so it won't be able to help Greece. One on one, Bulgaria at this time was capable of taking on Greece, and if needed it could always call on the Ottomans for help.
 
The Ottomans had their hands full with the British but in the end; Albania, Greece, Montenegro, Romania and Serbia occupied by the Central Powers.
 

ben0628

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The Ottomans had their hands full with the British but in the end; Albania, Greece, Montenegro, Romania and Serbia occupied by the Central Powers.

Ottomans were able to transfer an army or two to the balkan front to help out the CP in otl so they can do it (especially after the British get their asses handed to them at Gallipoli and Kut).
 
If Greece enters the war at this time, Bulgaria and the Ottomans will end up occupying it just as Austria-Hungary did Romania.
 

rohala

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At the time Romania entered the war Greece was demobilized and at the start of its division. There were more than 300,000 allied troops in Greece though. Assuming that Greece decides to declare war and mobilise when the Bulgarians invaded Eastern Macedonia, Greece can add some 250,000 troops to the allied camp. Greek entrance to the war would probably lead the Bulgarians to not participate in the offensive towards Romania, thus depriving Mackensen of at least 100,000 troops (the Bulgarian third army that invaded Romania had 140,000 troops) who instead would deploy south against the allies. Historically the allied offensive towards Monastir to take off some pressure from Romania failed despite its many tactical successes. We may assume a similar fate for a second offensive led by Greek forces.
I cannot speak for the fate of Romania. Romania may be able to retain its capital and keep more soldiers in the field for the rest of the war. Whether that would change the fate of Russia I doubt.
 
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