What if Germany attempted one the Kaiser's plans to attack america?

First time posting a thread here, so I hope I am not breaking any rules here. But I wanted to pose this question since I have been on a world war one/ early 1900s kick. And I keep seeing about how the Kaiser pushed for attacks on the US before the first world war changed everything.

I wanted to ask if one these crazy plans happened what would be the fall out. I'm pretty sure America would win, but since I'm not an expert I would be interested if anyone else disagrees. Would this lead to conflict in Europe or would the other Western powers just sit back and watch? Would Mexico or Canada get involved?
And finally, what would have to change to allow Germany to win and/or lead to new type of first world war?
 
1901 by Robert Conroy is a publshed version of this scenario. It suffers from the usual commercial AH faults, but i liked it.

While the US army is small at this point, and busy in the Philippines, the US does have home court advantage. I can't see the Germans winning this one. Oh, sure, they could seize a foothold, but imo the US would not give up easily, and if it took a year to raise a new army, they'd do it.

I also doubt that the UK would be happy about this. I could imagine them 'selling' the US enough capital ships to totally wipe out the German logistics, thus forcing the starving German army to surrender, even if they had won all their battles.

Any peace treaty is likely to draconicly limit German naval expansion. Imo.
 
1901 by Robert Conroy is a publshed version of this scenario. It suffers from the usual commercial AH faults, but i liked it.

While the US army is small at this point, and busy in the Philippines, the US does have home court advantage. I can't see the Germans winning this one. Oh, sure, they could seize a foothold, but imo the US would not give up easily, and if it took a year to raise a new army, they'd do it.

I also doubt that the UK would be happy about this. I could imagine them 'selling' the US enough capital ships to totally wipe out the German logistics, thus forcing the starving German army to surrender, even if they had won all their battles.

Any peace treaty is likely to draconicly limit German naval expansion. Imo.
Why sell them anything? The troops and their supplies are all going to have to sail through British waters. If you think the Germans threatened Allied shipping in wartime, wait till you see what the Royal Navy will do to German shipping.

I realize Nazi comparisons are out, but seriously, it took the World War II Allies years of planning and specialized equipment production to sustain a cross-Channel invasion, and even then there were some awkward kinks in the logistics early on. I don't see how a trans-Atlantic amphibious operation would not have the same problems but exponentially so.
 

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The cunning British let the German navy pass. Once they have landed, take an harbour town (and recoaled as they would be quite lucky to reach the American coast) and are irremediably in war with the USA they politely ask the American Government if it desire to sign a mutual assistance/defence pact. Once they do the Imperial Navy founds that the scape run from New England to Hamburg is far far greater than the one from Jutland...
 
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Why sell them anything? The troops and their supplies are all going to have to sail through British waters. If you think the Germans threatened Allied shipping in wartime, wait till you see what the Royal Navy will do to German shipping.
In 1901, say, Britain isn't terribly hostile to Germany. The Entente with France didn't happen until, what, 1905? Nor was there any treaty between the US and UK.

I'm assuming that the UK would be a very friendly neutral to the US, and not actively take part in the war. At least at first. Selling the US some soon to be obsolete predreadnoughts would kill a bunch of birds with one stone. Stops the German naval expansion cold, what with the cream of their fleet on the ocean floor, it saddles the US with a bunch of about to be obsolete ships, it helps pay for the UK's new Dreadnought fleet, it cements trans Atlantic ties,....
 
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