What if Germany Assasinated Churchill, Roosevelt and Stalin?

[Post]

Yeah I didn't see the original comment you were responding to, the war effort wouldn't ramp up over OTL, but could get more brutal and better focused with different leadership.

I read that comment as in "the war machines are already ramped up", especially with the next sentence: "Plans are made and will be continued for 1944 and 1945. Germany is still screwed. All three nations were bent on destroying Germany no matter who was in charge." Again, I read that as "the plans are already made, and will be continued." The last two sentences pretty much imply there would be no difference: whoever was in charge, the allies were going to destroy Germany.

 

[Michele]

Give me some credit!

My apologies.

 

[Anarch King of Dipsodes]

Molotov (there's a fun guy...how many people have a cocktail named after them?

• Shirley Temple Black: ginger ale, splash of grenadine, garnished with a maraschino cherry
• John Collins (a circa 1800 headwaiter): London dry gin (or Bourbon whiskey), lemon juice, sugar and carbonated water
• Rob Roy (Scots outlaw): Scotch whisky and vermouth, dash of Angostura bitters
  
• Churchill: 3 parts Scotch, 1 part Lime Juice, 1 part Sweet Vermouth, 1 part Cointreau
• Mary Pickford: white rum, fresh pineapple juice, grenadine, and Maraschino liqueur

Just for a few...

 

[TonyA]

My apologies.

Don't apologize...laugh, iff it's funny..."iff" intentional...math

 

[TonyA]

• Shirley Temple Black: ginger ale, splash of grenadine, garnished with a maraschino cherry
• John Collins (a circa 1800 headwaiter): London dry gin (or Bourbon whiskey), lemon juice, sugar and carbonated water
• Rob Roy (Scots outlaw): Scotch whisky and vermouth, dash of Angostura bitters
  
• Churchill: 3 parts Scotch, 1 part Lime Juice, 1 part Sweet Vermouth, 1 part Cointreau
• Mary Pickford: white rum, fresh pineapple juice, grenadine, and Maraschino liqueur

Just for a few...

Holy shit, boozeman, you're saying Tom Collins was stolen from John Collins, not the other way around. Live and learn...

 

[Anarch King of Dipsodes]

That article seems very dubious. Germany had 400 active agents in Iran, in late 1943? Tthe country had been under Allied occupation for over two years. Plus German intelligence had been thoroughly compromised by Double-Cross.

Stanley Lovell, OSS chief of R&D, recounted a similar story in his 1963 memoir Of Spies & Stratagems. It supposedly involved an OSS agent code named "C-12", who was deployed among the natives of the Kurdish mountains. A group of men arrived by parachute in the area: a German assassin team. "C-12" got himself hired as native guide, and led them to Tehran. There they rented a house and planted explosives in a tunnel under the street used by Churchill and Roosevelt to go to the Soviet Embassy for meetings with Stalin. Then he stole the detonators and reported them. Lovell had no official report of this story, and he wrote that "C-12" later denied that it ever happened.

There was a 1943(?) movie with a similar plot but I can't find the title.

 

[Michele]

That article seems very dubious.

Well, yes. It's always been quite a questionable notion. See post #2 by Wiking above.

 

[Richter von Manthofen]

1943 is a tad bit late (as others posted before), but

WHAT IF

an assassination of one two or all three happend earlier - and not necessarily at the same time.

And not necessarily the assasinations can be traced to Germany?

What if for example if Stalin is murdered sometime after 1938 (when he reduced the "Great Terror") The ensuing "power struggle" could possible lead to a form of "Warlordism" where "local" Leaders struggle against each other.

What if Churchill dies before 1940 - might his replacement make Peace with Germany after France is defeated?

Roosevelt - a less hard line vs Japan might prevent (or delay, or alter) the PAcific war (If Japan can Import (Scrap)iron and oil in sufficient quantities it might NOT attack PH in 1941) Double so if there is strife within the SU - Japan might Focus there???