What happens to the German empire if France wins the war? would it eventually form or would the region remain divided?
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Considering France was technically the aggressor in that war I don' think Bismarck would have to worry about being seen as "dragging" Germany into a war.You mean if France won the war, right? Well, for starters, Napoleon III would stay in power and would probably be a popular leader after defeating Prussia. The reason Bismarck started the Franco-Prussian War was to give all Germans a common ally to unite against which would be achieved now that France is even stronger than before and aggressive towards Germany, however, I doubt that Prussia would be uniting Germany any time soon considering that it just dragged Germany into a war that it lost.
Considering France was technically the aggressor in that war I don' think Bismarck would have to worry about being seen as "dragging" Germany into a war.
People seem to forget that France declared first, the fact that it was what the Prussians wanted doesn't change that.
NGF was Prussia and it's tiny irrelevant vassals they are not really in a position to question anything.The southern German states are probably going to feel let down/fooled into getting involved though, and the other members of the NGF will at least question to what extent Prussia should have a monopoly on power within the Federation considering the lose it just lead them into.
A lot depends on just what terms France manages to extract and how far they get into/how much damage they do to the Germanies. If they push for the Rhine Prussia certainly comes off looking better. If Napoleon III's demands are more modest and diplomatic though, in line with the scale of the causus belle (namely, enough to defend his honor), than Prussia looks petty to the international community and a bully or at least reckless to the minor German states
Now here's a novel idea I would a read a timeline about. Germany without A-L and no French revanchism? I can already sense the panic in LondonIMO it would be just as interesting if its a draw. Bismarck could sell it as a victory as they stopped the french agressors and this still could lead to german unification - without Alsace. Also they wont have beaten everyone so they will be considered much less superior militarily.
Now here's a novel idea I would a read a timeline about. Germany without A-L and no French revanchism? I can already sense the panic in London![]()
Now here's a novel idea I would a read a timeline about. Germany without A-L and no French revanchism? I can already sense the panic in London![]()
Yeah, sorry i wrote Prussia accidentallyYou mean if France won the war, right? Well, for starters, Napoleon III would stay in power and would probably be a popular leader after defeating Prussia. The reason Bismarck started the Franco-Prussian War was to give all Germans a common ally to unite against which would be achieved now that France is even stronger than before and aggressive towards Germany, however, I doubt that Prussia would be uniting Germany any time soon considering that it just dragged Germany into a war that it lost.
Maybe, and maybe Austria, France and Russia ally against Britain and Prussia. France is along-time enemy of London, and Austria already hates Prussia. Italy possibly allies with Prussia, they were allies in the Austrian-Prussian war, but thats a stretchI disagree. France and Germany both still are the biggest recognizable threats to one another and the zones of influence they'll be pushing for (A-H, Italy, the Low Counteries) are naturally going to overlap if Nappy III keeps his policy and Germany continues to be a land focused power. Especially since at this time Russia is also at odds with the Brits, there's not much for them to rally around without Germany developing her interests mainly overseas. Actually, you might see Germany get warm treatment from London to help contain St.Petersburg
Maybe, and maybe Austria, France and Russia ally against Britain and Prussia. France is along-time enemy of London, and Austria already hates Prussia. Italy possibly allies with Prussia, they were allies in the Austrian-Prussian war, but thats a stretch
I honestly could see these resolved in a series of agreements.France and Germany both still are the biggest recognizable threats to one another and the zones of influence they'll be pushing for (A-H, Italy, the Low Counteries)