What if Cherokee help the Creek and Yamassee destroy Charleston in 1716

raharris1973

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamasee_War

The war had had already driven most whites from frontier settlements and many of the whites in Charleston to ships. What if instead of turning on the visiting Creek and Yamasee at the Tugaloo massacre, the Cherokee decided to join them in burning out Charleston and the remaining English South Carolina settlements?

If the deep south needs to start over from scratch, how does that work out for the region. Is South Carolina vacant of English settlement and authorities until perhaps the English send James Oglethorpe to establish a colony of "Georgia" there?

Do the Spanish or French take advantage in the meantime?
 

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If white South Carolina has to start over, does its history basically converge with OTL's, or does it have a less "special" role in US history?
 
Could the French or Spanish have established a foothold over Charleston and surrounding areas after the British leave? It's not like English domination of the east coast of North America was guaranteed until very late IOTL...
 
Could the French or Spanish have established a foothold over Charleston and surrounding areas after the British leave? It's not like English domination of the east coast of North America was guaranteed until very late IOTL...
Spain claimed the region, and in the vacuum could possibly plopped down a fort and/or re-establish and extend the mission district.

However, Spain was still recovering from the war of spanish succession, and in no condition to be adventuresome. ditto France, who also could weakly press a claim to the region. I suppose they could use it to connect New France to the Atlantic, but it probably isn't worth the effort, and it would step on brother Phillip's toes.

Most likely is that Spain presses for the Savannah River as the border, while the middle colonies put together militias to teach the indians a lesson and relieve the threat now on their doorstep.
 
The point of the war was not really the extermination of Charleston rather than the ability to monopolize trade with it. The quality of trade with South Carolina was way better than what the French and Spanish could provide, and the Yamassee were going to be displaced by the Creek or the Cherokee as chief trade partners at some point down the road. The Cherokee had far more to gain from overthrowing both the Creek and the Yamassee. The Yamassee at the time lived on prime rice and indigo plantation land, so they were going to get the boot at some point.

Had Charleston been exterminated, in the way Roanoke likely was, it likely gets rebuilt sometime after the founding of Georgia, if not sooner. Or, maybe Virginia tries to extend its reach South.
 
I could very likely mean Spanish Georgia. While the mother country was in trouble in the 1700s, the colonies we're growing, like Florida, parts of Mexico becoming Mexican and most importantly California.

One of the purposes of both Georgia and SC were to defend more prosperous colonies to the North and with nothing to defend, Oglethorpe probably rebuilds Charleston rather than starting Savannah.
 
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