What if Bush Assasinated
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And on the matter of advocating assassinations, I wouldn't do that.
Even if you're not being entirely serious, the Secret Service might show up at your house to ask you some questions.
Even if you're not being entirely serious, the Secret Service might show up at your house to ask you some questions.
If that's really true, then does that mean you would be equally offended by a movie/TV show which showed the assassination of an entirely fictional president a la President Bartlett from "The West Wing"? If not, why not?
So, you're saying that film makers can't have bias?
Again, why is this wrong but movies about smallpox attacks on America are okay?
What makes the office of President so sacred that we can't imagine that the president could get shot, given that it's happened repeatedly?
When did the president become a Roman Emperor, where discussing his death was an act of treason?
no, i'm not saying that they can't have a bias, i'm saying that it should show you where that guy POV is coming from and HIS idealology.
It's not so sacred that we can't imagine a President getting shot, we do it all the time here on the forum. what's tasteless is that he is a SITTING President and is entiled to the RESPECT that the Office has, even if you don't like the individual IN the Office. Case in point, I didn't like Clinton, but i still respected the Office of President, but not him personally. and yes it could happen that Bush is assassinated, but it doesn't mean that we should go around making movies about it, while he's in office.
No this isn't an Empire and i NEVER said that it was Treasonious to talk about assassination, but Tasteless, Unethical, and is Lacking in Class.
And that is more disrespectful how than the billions of comedy shows that ridicule and skewer him every day?
As a non US Citizen, I -- and all other non-citizens -- cannot comit treason in this way even if it were possible for the act to be considered treason in the first place.
Discussion of potentioal assassination is 'tasteless, unethical and lacking in "class" '. So you're suggesting that:
1) The US Secret Service is unethical? after all, they discuss potential assassinations of sitting presidents 24/7
2) That a respected British television channel is 'lacking in class' because they decide to make an exploratory docudrama? It seems to me that this is exactly the kind of *hypothetical* scenario that *everyone* needs to examine. To pitch a major tantie about it like a spoiled 18 month old is the true mark of tastelessness
i was NOT talking about the US Secret Service discussing senarios with the possiblity of the President being assassinated, that is their JOB
i'm not saying that discussing it in anyway but the fact that they are actually Showing a SITTING President being assassinated is what lacks class and is unethical.
I DID NOT SAY THAT IT WAS TREASONIOUS, Faeelin is the one that put those words in my mouth. I DID NOT say that.
and further more I never said that it wasn't their right to make the movie, but merely tasteless and classless to make a movie about a SITTING US President. IMO
Well, if it means they get to meet Samuel L. Jackson...According to Marl_D, will millions of cinema-goers have the urge to release pythons on aircraft?
Hmm, does anyone know if the movie will actually have a scene of Bush being killed? I was under the impression it was only talking about the consequences...
If Bush were assassinated, that would mean President Cheney.
Cheney is even more neoconnish than Bush.
Cheney is even more neoconnish than Bush.
thank you doctor what for posting that....
Floid, name a couple movies with that premis, i can't think of any off hand. to answer your question, if it's some one like Saddam, then no i don't have a problem with it, if it's someone like Bush, or Blair, or hell even Jacque Chirac, then yes i would have a problem with it.
Floid, name a couple movies with that premis, i can't think of any off hand. to answer your question, if it's some one like Saddam, then no i don't have a problem with it, if it's someone like Bush, or Blair, or hell even Jacque Chirac, then yes i would have a problem with it.
Not only that, the Prime Minster was shown being assassinated very graphically by a sniper at the end of the final part of the trilogy, The Final Cut, in a conspiracy that involved his own wife no less. Remember this was after he had a couple of journalists and others murdered by getting the secret service to blow up cars and arrange other 'unfortunate accidents' for prying too deeply, and personally threw his journalist lover off the top of Parliament in the first part of the trilogy because she knew too much. Fascinating stuff though.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again for the benfit of those who don't know Channel 4's obligations. They are REQUIRED by their charter to show challenging and CONTROVERSIAL shows. That some of them may be tasteless is besides the point. Besides, in the US, the office of President has a lot of respect, even if the guy himself in the Oval Office at various times may not have it, compared to a very long tradition of being extremely nasty to high positions here in the UK, and that includes things about the monarchy too.
I mean a guy like Jeremy Paxman who tears apart politicians for a living very nastily on Newsnight (and that includes giving the PM a very hard grilling that was bordering on a rotweiller savaging a cat), would probably be a little too much for a number of you folks there. I guess we're just ruder
Sadly, I would advise you guys to get used to it, since there will probably be more of this type of stuff to come....
I agree that it is pretty tasteless, but as a WI, it is still interesting. And at least in a free society we are allowed to potray things like this, however controversial they are. Whether it is worth setting aside time to watch it, remains to be seen.
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