What if? Allies support the anti-Hitler coup?

Early on in the war members of the German highcommand who opposed Hitler and wanted to have a coup against him sent word about the plot to the British high command. They wanted their support with possibly amnesty for the Germans involved in any future war crime trials plus they wanted to be able to continue their war against the Russians.

But, the allies rejected this. They would only accept total surrender. To both them and the Russians. From wat I understand Stalin was afraid of just such a possibility and warned against it.

But what if they had? What if talks with the conspirators had opened up leading to a successful anti-Hitler and nazi coup in say 1943 followed by an armistice with allied forces in the west? Could the war have ended early? Could we have trusted a post-Hitler German government?

Finally would the German people have accepted it? Possible counter coup?

What do you all think?
 
The problem lies in two things. Firstly, what would the coup leaders be willing to give up in terms of territory in return for a surrender? Austria? The Sudetenland? Danzig? Upper Silesia? Secondly would the Allies be willing to negotiate given the fact that the coup would result in a new Dolchstoß myth?
 
I think this is close to ASB if not across the boundary.

First off, the Allies had specific goals in mind and only if the Germans agreed to them, they might want to consider a peace deal. The Allied conditions were tantamount to unconditional surrender as far as the Germans were concerned.

Furthermore, the Allies did not want to let Germany off the hook and then have to confront them again a few years later, over the same issue.

Finally, and most importantly, no one could, nor wanted to, believe the German generals, considering them only the rats to leave the sinking ship. The thinking on the Allied side was probably along the lines 'You do it and then we will talk!'.

There is no conceivable way the German generals could persuade the Allies to believe in anything other than this. They would always be seen as people trying to worm their way out of situation that has become unpleasant. Nothing was going to happen as long as the German generals are talking of continuing the war against the Soviets. Why? Because the Allies feared potential backlash from both sides should they enter such negotiations and they should fail.

The coup might very well manage to kill Hitler off, but still fail and be foiled by Himmler, Goebels, Goering, SS or any number of Nazi generals (Guderian, as the most obvious example).
 
The allies didn't want to kill Hitler because they'd then be faced with a German leader with an ounce of strategic sense, rather than a raving lunatic who made everything so easy.
 
The allies didn't want to kill Hitler because they'd then be faced with a German leader with an ounce of strategic sense, rather than a raving lunatic who made everything so easy.

Believe it or not, the Allies did not think like AH.com members do today.
 
Believe it or not, the Allies did not think like AH.com members do today.


This is why it took 6 years to end the war, and why New Mexico and Andorra do not have ports or A-L, while the Vatican has yet to launch a zeppelin to reunite West and East Christians.

On a slightly more serious not, I do not think the Allies will settle for it. Churchill may want to, but cannot not afford to piss off the others. Stalin has been promised half of Germany; what can the plotters offer him? And after Bagration, he knows it is only time before he can get it. He may fear a Western betrayal, but I bet he keeps going. I have heard that Americans (among others) believed the root cause was Prussian militarism, so getting rid of Nazis doesn't solve FDR's concerns. And what the other poster(s) said about actually pulling off the coup.
 
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