What if a Star Trek-like show had been made in apartheid South Africa?

Spock gets to be the left-wing character, being an alien. He's from an alien race that Earth has an uneasy alliance with. It might be like how in OTL Star Trek, the Vulcans made first contact with humanity right after the successful warp drive experiment. Perhaps the ATL Vulcans represent the Western world or America.

Maybe switch the Romulans with the Vulcans? See the horrible movie Nemesis?
 
How about one from a capitalist state? To symbolise an international socialist victory? Chekov was mainly a comedic relief, so why not a US member:

Skippy Mcbride
Hailing from the USS (United Soviet States), hes the ships requesitions officer an always in on a scheme toget more goods. He's good natured but not the brightest. Most of his schemes are foiled by one of the 'big three'. Cowardly, he is dispised by the political officer, secretary Orlovski.

Make sure that the USS doesn't exist anymore, though. Earth should be united under South African apartheid. So, he should still remain loyal to the prevailing South African philosophy in the end.
 
Make sure that the USS doesn't exist anymore, though. Earth should be united under South African apartheid. So, he should still remain loyal to the prevailing South African philosophy in the end.

Sorry this one was meant for Thande's 'socialist' variation. I should have made that clear.
 
Maybe switch the Romulans with the Vulcans? See the horrible movie Nemesis?

You mean, have the Romulans, but as they were at the end of Nemesis?

You know, if we move Thande's POD to the '70s, we could have the Romulans be a commentary on how America and the west abandoned their racial ideals and became less strong as a result.

Perhaps, Earth may end up taking over the Romulan empire if the Romulans get too weak and liberal.
 
Didn't the Romulans also enslave another race? They would make swell partners.

The Vulcans and there idiocy of equality would be the main bad guys I think.
 
Didn't the Romulans also enslave another race? They would make swell partners.

The Vulcans and there idiocy of equality would be the main bad guys I think.

Oh, I was thinking that we could have no Vulcans, and just have Spock be Romulan, with the Romulans having formerly been something like what they were for Star Trek's original run OTL, but having them be a more liberal civilization at the start of STSA.

Edit: Or maybe, we could still have ultra-liberal Vulcans (socialist and non-theist?), but have Spock be Romulan.

Another edit: We could have, as historical background, the Romulans be a civilization that splintered off from the Vulcans (which is what they were OTL). It could be a metaphor for America having split off from England, or the South having split away from the North in the ACW. The Vulcans could represent how England became more liberal than America (England banned slavery first), or the North being more liberal than the South.
 
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This might be useful for my "apartheid superpower" TL.

Annoyed at the success of "Star Trek" (assuming it exists in TTL), the leadership of the Afrikaner Confederation produces their own version.
 

Thande

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Skippy Mcbride
Hailing from the USS (United Soviet States), he's the ship's requesitions officer and always in on a scheme to get more goods. He's good natured but not the brightest. Most of his schemes are foiled by one of the 'big three'. Cowardly, he is dispised by the political officer, secretary Orlovski.

And he insists everything was "invented in America, y'all!" :D
 
I was thinking about adding that one..... but found it to obvious. :)

Skippy Mcbride:
"Bah, wodka was invented by an old lady in Pittsberg!"
 

Thande

Donor
I was thinking about adding that one..... but found it to obvious. :)

Skippy Mcbride:
"Bah, wodka was invented by an old lady in Pittsberg!"

I wonder where the engineer would be from in the Soviet version. Nowadays it seems as though the Russians themselves have become the engineer stereotype in a lot of OTL films ("Hit it viz big hammer, da?")
 
US (see above)
GB (something about the monarchy?)
Maybe even the BRD (Since SU was the big bad enemy, maybe a similar twist could be applied to the Germans?)
China (as a comedic foil would have made political sense.)
Australia (with a pet kangaroo named Lenin would be hilarious)



(damn first day active and I already feel like a forum troll)
 
Spock gets to be the left-wing character, being an alien. He's from an alien race that Earth has an uneasy alliance with. It might be like how in OTL Star Trek, the Vulcans made first contact with humanity right after the successful warp drive experiment. Perhaps the ATL Vulcans represent the Western world or America.

Maybe switch the Romulans with the Vulcans? See the horrible movie Nemesis?
 
I wonder where the engineer would be from in the Soviet version. Nowadays it seems as though the Russians themselves have become the engineer stereotype in a lot of OTL films ("Hit it viz big hammer, da?")

A German or a Czech, surely. In electronics and optics, for instance, East Germany (DDR) was WAY ahead of the USSR, even if it was way behind the west. While I don't remember details, I do remember hearing about the amount of 'high' tech that flowed from the western satellites (firstly DDR, secondly Czechoslovakia, thirdly Hungary, IIRC), without which the USSR would have been pretty hopeless.
 
A German or a Czech, surely. In electronics and optics, for instance, East Germany (DDR) was WAY ahead of the USSR, even if it was way behind the west. While I don't remember details, I do remember hearing about the amount of 'high' tech that flowed from the western satellites (firstly DDR, secondly Czechoslovakia, thirdly Hungary, IIRC), without which the USSR would have been pretty hopeless.
It would also allow the producer to pick up one of Scotty's traits namely the different accent. On the other hand, a beer guzzling chief engineer is not going to be able drink aliens under the table. That is going to be the perogative of the doctor who can even download more syntho-vodka than his fellow Russians and still stand. Well, crawl at any rate.

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In the Confucian version the Zheng He will sent out with the objective of going out to explore the galaxy and bring back tribute to the Middle Planet. The Ferengi aren't going to be the traders of the Next Generation. They are going to be pirates who don't wash and fight as soon as talk (the word is derived from the Persian for Frank or European). The Romulans and Klingons won't have any technology more advanced than the Middle Planet and thus get their butts kicked on every occasion. In fact the Klingons will be entirely space borne and have giant "home ships" that travel from star system to star system looking for resources to mine. Some of the security personal (but not the officers) on the Zheng He will be Klingon and wear red jerseys.
 
Kaizer here we come

What if Uhura was a Xhosa, from the Transkei.
Of all the "independent homelands" Transkei was the most viable.
Kazier Mantanzima Mandela's cousin, was the head overseer.
Seperate development being der reigur, it would play well in Cape Town
 
Getting television introduced ten years earlier is hardly ASB.

There was a Thunderbirds style show made in the 70's.

Link

I remember that show. Used to freak me out, but so did all those Thunderbird-style shows, with the puppets with the freakishly large heads.
 

Hendryk

Banned
A Soviet one would have characters from the different SSRs and other socialist nations.
Incidentally, Soviet cinema started venturing into SF as early as 1924. "Aelita", loosely based on the novel by Tolstoy, is the story of three Soviet explorers who land on Mars, encounter a feudal human civilization, and spread Marxism-Leninism among the oppressed Martian masses, who eventually start a revolution.

I haven't seen it, but AFAIK, it's perfectly serious.
 

NapoleonXIV

Banned
I don't think you'd have anything like what you're proposing. What they'd do would be to simply not treat diversity themes at all. Most of TOS was just straight space opera adventure and race or nationality didn't enter into it.

You wouldn't have Uhura at all. You might have Sulu playing a sort of double role tho I think you'd maybe have a Chinese girl at the radio.
 
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