What happens to Canada in Ghost in the Shell

Discussion in 'Alternate History Books and Media' started by dreadnought jenkins, May 7, 2008.

  1. dreadnought jenkins lives to serve his cat

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    Someone posted a map in the Map thread, and though I have only sparingly watched the series, there was one where a Canadian diplomat came and it mentioned something about a civil war.

    Now the map showed OTL Canada being part of some nation that also encompasses lots of OTL US and OTL Russia.

    Wiki mentions some kind American Soviet Alliance.

    What the hell happened. I am very intrigued.
     
  2. Hawkeye Source?

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    Some shit called World War Three, thats what happend.
     
  3. dreadnought jenkins lives to serve his cat

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    Yes World war 3, but Canada what? Die in a cloud of Nukes? Join up with the Russians to produce America's worst nightmare?
     
  4. Hawkeye Source?

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    I have no idea. My guess is some desperat attempt for economic stability.
     
  5. dreadnought jenkins lives to serve his cat

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    Ah, ok.


    I was really hoping for a Canada wank.
     
  6. Hawkeye Source?

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    Sorry but the guy who makes the show tends to portray North Americans as weak, evil, imperialists who will do anything to keep power. (but thats my personal opinion)
     
  7. Count Dearborn Headmaster of St. Trinians

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    WWIII, and then the Second Vietnam War. Part of the US became the American Empire, and part became the American Soviet Alliance. The Japanese saved the world because they came up with nanotech that cleaned up all the fallout.
     
  8. Count Dearborn Headmaster of St. Trinians

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    I think a good portion of the American Empire is made up of the South.
     
  9. Hawkeye Source?

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    I know but thats still the message I'm getting.
     
  10. Zor More of a Zor than you

    I do remember from one episode that Canada is engaged in Conscription (One of the Suspects is a Draft Dodger), but that's it.

    Zor
     
  11. Emperor Qianlong Sinneslöschung AG

    Yes, the American Empire is broadly consistent with the old CSA in area.

    About the Russo-American Alliance (or "US-Soviet Alliance" in the Appleseed databooks), I never quite figured out it's land area. It's either only Alaska, or possibly all of the old US save for the American Empire. Then again, there's also the mentioning of a remnant calling itself still "USA", so my bet was this is located in the mainland area not occupied by the AE. But, in honest I have no idea.

    Anyways, about Canada, there's basically two choices with it:
    1) it still exists as a country (with uncertain affiliations)
    2) it has been turned into a Badside area
     
  12. pieman3141 You mean I get one?

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    My theory is that the writers, as most foreign writers are wont to do, forgot about Canada. We're pretty damned forgettable in any case. I mean... we didn't exactly nuke Japan, and the only true action we saw was the defense of Hong Kong.

    Imagine this:

    "So, the Americans turn evil and imperial, right?"
    "Yep."
    "What about that great big blob north of the USA?"
    "What blob?"
    *Points at Canada*
    "I think that's some sort of military base, or parking lot, or some useless thing... You know how Americans are about secret bases..."
     
  13. Hawkeye Source?

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    Not that it really matters but here is that map of Ghost in the Shell I made.
     
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  14. Mr. Evangelical Banned

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    Hm, I must say Ghost in The Shell is cool, there's a strong South. (just Southern Pride, no slavery shit)
     
  15. dreadnought jenkins lives to serve his cat

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    Ah, but it's an empire. Not much of a republic:p.
     
  16. Emperor Qianlong Sinneslöschung AG

    This is my current interpretation of the GITS world, using the blurred world map from that episode of the series, plus the map from the Appleseed databook. I was too lazy however to include all those silly craters everywhere:

    Gitsverse.png
     
  17. Strategos' Risk Oriental Orientalist

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    That's the dumbest FH map since the Gundam 00 map.

    Anime: can't project future geopolitics realistically.
     
  18. dreadnought jenkins lives to serve his cat

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    why, how bad was Gundam OO map?:confused:
     
  19. Strategos' Risk Oriental Orientalist

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    The whole concept that today's international blocs will largely be the same centuries into the future.
     
  20. Emperor Qianlong Sinneslöschung AG

    I'm afraid I agree, at both issues. It was only my obsession with obscure details that drove me into twisted fascination (and utter inability of understanding) of the GITS/Appleseed world map... ;):p