What diasporas could be as big as the British, German and Irish diasporas?

So, which countries could have a massive amount of emigration as Britain, Ireland and Germany? My money is on China, Spain, and India, if it wasn't colonized it at least free movement is enabled. What are your ideas?
 
If France doesn't go through the demographic transition very early, it could have a huge diaspora. It was the most populous country in Europe in 1800 - more populous than even Russia.
 
If France doesn't go through the demographic transition very early, it could have a huge diaspora. It was the most populous country in Europe in 1800 - more populous than even Russia.
What butterflies could this cause in terms of the French colonies and the World Wars? If they happen.
 
What butterflies could this cause in terms of the French colonies and the World Wars? If they happen.

Presumably France would try to seek out more settler colonies, or send more colonists to the ones it had. IOTL, France sent some settlers to New Caledonia, but it might not be large enough ITTL. Maybe they would try to colonize parts of Australia/New Zealand (which might lead to conflict with Britain), or try to keep Louisiana (which could lead to conflict with the United States). Perhaps Madagascar would become more of a settlement option. Or else just send much larger numbers to Algeria, to the point where they might become the majority.
 
Presumably France would try to seek out more settler colonies, or send more colonists to the ones it had. IOTL, France sent some settlers to New Caledonia, but it might not be large enough ITTL. Maybe they would try to colonize parts of Australia/New Zealand (which might lead to conflict with Britain), or try to keep Louisiana (which could lead to conflict with the United States). Perhaps Madagascar would become more of a settlement option. Or else just send much larger numbers to Algeria, to the point where they might become the majority.
Would there be ethnic cleansing or intermarriage and assimilation?
 
Ohhh, what about a polish diaspora. Maybe a Jewish diaspora since secular American Jews could intermarry ,but still have their descendants consider themselves Jewish in ethnicity like the Irish descendants. If that happened how big could the Jewish diaspora be?
 
Ohhh, what about a polish diaspora. Maybe a Jewish diaspora since secular American Jews could intermarry ,but still have their descendants consider themselves Jewish in ethnicity like the Irish descendants. If that happened how big could the Jewish diaspora be?
That's exactly what happened, although 200,000 moved to Israel after 1948.
 
Would there be ethnic cleansing or intermarriage and assimilation?

Well historically, when European settlers became large enough in number in a certain place, the colonial governments would opt for ethnic cleansing of the natives. Assimilation was really only a goal when the native population was too large.
 
Well historically, when European settlers became large enough in number in a certain place, the colonial governments would opt for ethnic cleansing of the natives. Assimilation was really only a goal when the native population was too large.
Well, it depends on the government, as the French seemed to really want to assimilate the colonial subjects, by erasing their culture, but I could see French policy changing with settlers, especially if they bring whole families like the British.
 
Also, when putting a diaspora, try to say where it's big at, like the Irish diaspora is mostly in USA, but has chunks in Canada, Australia, and just English speaking countries in general. The German diaspora is all over, with significant populations in USA, Brazil, Argentina, and south Africa, moderate populations in Mexico, Australia, and Venezuela( see colonial tovar) small but, noticeable populations in Chile, Bolivia, and Peru. Italians are Also big in USA, and especially Argentina and Brazil. You all know where the British diaspora went, so again try to say where the diaspora would go as it makes things more fun.
 
So, which countries could have a massive amount of emigration as Britain, Ireland and Germany? My money is on China, Spain, and India, if it wasn't colonized it at least free movement is enabled. What are your ideas?

Heck, China already has a giant diaspora. Look at all the Chinatowns~ :p

But seriously, since the fall of the Ming dynasty, the Chinese have been emigrating all over Southeast Asia. The Philippines, for example, has Binondo, the oldest Chinatown, such that our first Filipino saint is a mestizo de sangley who comes from there. In truth, describing us as "Catholic China" is not far off.
 
Perhaps the Arab diaspora could be bigger, if the French diaspora is, for if the French settlers discriminate against the Arabs in their own countries and start to overwhelm them, then the Arabs would head out to other parts if the World like the Americas and even Africa if the colonials paid them, since generally Arabs can endure stronger heat than northern Europeans, which is useful in Africa.
 
It would be interesting if China modernized earlier, with the Qing falling, and Mongolian and Manchu diaspora settled the Western US.
 
Both China and India already have huge diasporas OTL. In raw numbers, almost certainly much larger than e.g. the Irish diaspora, although much smaller as a percentage of the mother country, obviously.

Indians were used as labor basically throughout the British Empire, so today in places like Fiji or Guyana, Indians make up essentially half the population, and (less drastically) are significant minorities throughout former British territories. As others have noted, Chinese emigration was also massive, both throughout Asia in pre-modern times, and throughout the world from the 19th century on (there's a reason that essentially any podunk town in the US will still somehow have a Chinese restaurant).
 
Both China and India already have huge diasporas OTL. In raw numbers, almost certainly much larger than e.g. the Irish diaspora, although much smaller as a percentage of the mother country, obviously.

Indians were used as labor basically throughout the British Empire, so today in places like Fiji or Guyana, Indians make up essentially half the population, and (less drastically) are significant minorities throughout former British territories. As others have noted, Chinese emigration was also massive, both throughout Asia in pre-modern times, and throughout the world from the 19th century on (there's a reason that essentially any podunk town in the US will still somehow have a Chinese restaurant).
So, what other diasporas do you think could be bigger than they are in OTL?
 
Both China and India already have huge diasporas OTL. In raw numbers, almost certainly much larger than e.g. the Irish diaspora, although much smaller as a percentage of the mother country, obviously.

I think this is probably true for overseas Chinese (especially if we include the pre-modern migration) but I'm not sure about the Indian diaspora. There are over 40 million people just in the U.S. who claim Irish ancestry. I'm not sure if the Indian diaspora is greater than that.
 
An obvious one OP forgot to mention is the Italians. Tens of millions of Italian-descendants live in the Americas, including the majority of the population of Argentina.
 
I think you mean in American context, because the Spanish are bigger than the German, British and Irish, the Italian one just as great as the Irish one, while the French and Dutch diaspora are also pretty big if you count worldwide.

So let's create a USA with other larger diasporas.

Let's start with New Netherlands conquer New Sweden, but they give the western bank of the Delaware River back to Sweden at the peace treaty. New Netherlands stay Dutch until the 3rd Anglo-Dutch War, where it's trade for some island. But the British guarantee that Dutch Calvinist Church stay the state church of New Netherlands and Dutch as adminstrative language. At the same time Denmark conquer New Sweden in the Scanian War, and settle several thousand Scanian settlers in New Sweden (renamed New Denmark). Denmark trade it for Saxe-Lauenburg in the 1730ties against the same gurantees for the Lutheran Church and Danish language. So Delaware-Pennsylvania is united as New Denmark and New Jersey-New York as New Amsterdam. Each colonies use a different language than English. Fast forward to the American independence, where these colonies join and USA do a little better and gain Canada (Ontario and Quebec), which join USA as a French speaking state. As USA move west the new states decide on English as official language, but the settlers from New Netherlands, New Denmark and Canada identify as Dutch, Danish and French in ancestry even after adopting the English language and together with the population in those states a large number of people identify as part of those states diaspora.
 
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