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Trent Lott isn't all that moderate. I would maybe go with Bill Frist instead.
Not familiar with his politics, just knew he was an ally and friend of Kemp. Gingrich is too, but he'd obviously make a crappy vp. I don't like Frist just cause Thompson's already on Rummie's side, he just needs to placate Kemp's aisle. Got any other suggestions?
 
Improbable, but not impossible. + Kemp would be boring. A surprise win in Iowa based off of Huckabee's win in 2008. Plus Rummie now seems horrible, but back then he wouldn't literally be the devil, by all accounts he could be charming. If you get Thompson to support him over Kemp (who I assumed had moderated significantly since the 90s), and he goes more heavily into gaining the support of the Christian Right, I see him coming out on top.


Gore has been doing all right and I figure Rumsfeld will pretty much doom the USA to a lot of problems
 
JC Watts or Connie Mack III, maybe?
I like JC Watts, Kemp was a big civil rights guy, and would probably take getting Watts on the ticket as a victory. Will retcon, thanks
Gore has been doing all right and I figure Rumsfeld will pretty much doom the USA to a lot of problems
But if you think about it, Rummy gets elected in 2004, that means there wouldn't be a conservative Republican elected in 2008 when the inevitable 2008 crash occurs. So I guess Rummy 2004 would be a blessing in disguise in TTL
 
I like JC Watts, Kemp was a big civil rights guy, and would probably take getting Watts on the ticket as a victory. Will retcon, thanks

But if you think about it, Rummy gets elected in 2004, that means there wouldn't be a conservative Republican elected in 2008 when the inevitable 2008 crash occurs. So I guess Rummy 2004 would be a blessing in disguise in TTL

Yeah that’s true and given how he’d wage war and his mishandling k Katrina and the economy, it’d be worse than Bush
 
Ok when you put it like that, yeh he'd probably do a lot more bad in 4 years than another Republican would do in 8-12 yrs lol

Yup, one of those it has to be worse before it gets better. I don’t think he go as hard on marijuana, though I know little on Rumsfeld in that department and he’d piss off people quickly
 
Yup, one of those it has to be worse before it gets better. I don’t think he go as hard on marijuana, though I know little on Rumsfeld in that department and he’d piss off people quickly
He'd probably attack Gore and legalization using his son's addiction as evidence of the evil of drugs and run on the mantra that all drugs are bad drugs. Seems like a guy who'd turn anything into a way to attack his opponents.
 
He'd probably attack Gore and legalization using his son's addiction as evidence of the evil of drugs and run on the mantra that all drugs are bad drugs. Seems like a guy who'd turn anything into a way to attack his opponents.

Which would in turn mean Gore could use it against him regarding states right and people’s addiction to pharmaceuticals. States rights thing might get him to back down, least in campaigning, but it’d be just another nail on the coffin for him
 
Which would in turn mean Gore could use it against him regarding states right and people’s addiction to pharmaceuticals. States rights thing might get him to back down, least in campaigning, but it’d be just another nail on the coffin for him
Agreed. If Rummy's basically doomed from the start, I can see Watts separating himself from Rummy and kind of running his own campaign to raise his own political clout, perhaps in preparation for a 2008 run.
 
Agreed. If Rummy's basically doomed from the start, I can see Watts separating himself from Rummy and kind of running his own campaign to raise his own political clout, perhaps in preparation for a 2008 run.

Well, I don’t think Rumsfeld doomed. He could be a firebrand if Gore was relatively lukewarm and he could probably lay off weed to win. He’s been surprising quiet on drugs, least according to this: http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Donald_Rumsfeld_Drugs.htm

I figure he’d scrape a win and then run the country to the ground and when the Recession hits, the GOP will be torn apart
 
May 31, 2004: Gary Johnson accepts the Libertarian nomination for President. Former Representative Bob Barr is chosen as his running mate.

June 26, 2004: Alan Keyes accepts the Constitution nomination for President. Journalist Scott McConnell is chosen as his running mate.
 
July 29, 2004: Al Gore and John Kerry are renominated at the DNC. The defeated Woolsey chooses to support former boss and fellow PNAC-think-tanker Rumsfeld over Gore, who he labels a 'dangerous non-interventionist'.
 
August 01, 2004: Due to the growing petrol crisis as a result of the fall of Saudi Arabia, Al Gore has moved to get several reforms and legislature passed to deal with it. This includes but not limited to more efforts into green energy and "alternate" fuels such as algae biofuel, a move supporting by several automobile manufacturers. This also got some support from President Cardenas who would begin moving from the petrol to biofuel while further invest into solar power in Northern Mexico. However, Mexican petroleum has become more important to the United States, prompting an importance in increasing relations with Gore saying that whoever won the election need to remember their closest ally, Mexico.

August 08, 2004: Venezuela would propose deals with the United States regarding Venezuelan oil to help deal with the petrol crisis. However, Venezuela had remained on fragile foundations. A good bit of funding used to try and maintain peace and while the elections were ultimately held, there was still a great deal of public resentment regarding the "return of the old guard" such as the influence of the Church, the private media and others that consisted of the coalition. As such, the United States remained reluctant to accept the deal though the government would end up going over to Rumsfeld in secret talks in the event he won regarding petrol.
 
14 August 2004: Al Gore has announced that the U.S has signed a deal to buy oil from Iran. Iran, who have gone the way to heavily limit the clergy's power and effectively have moved to a fully democratic society, is now expected to become the main source oif oil in the middle east (and second overall to Mexico).
 
Improbable, but not impossible. + Kemp would be boring. A surprise win in Iowa based off of Huckabee's win in 2008. Plus Rummy now seems horrible, but back then he wouldn't literally be the devil, by all accounts he could be charming. If you get Thompson to support him over Kemp (who I assumed had moderated significantly since the 90s), and he goes more heavily into gaining the support of the Christian Right, I see him coming out on top.

I'd call ASB for another reason, McCain is running after all and its essentially his to lose. I mean Rumsfield has openly called for war on three countries, i mean even the warhawks would have to be thinking twice on declaring against Iraq, Afghanistan and Saudi at the same time. That alone basically guarantees Gore (who is highly popular) gets over 400 EC votes and winning on a 60/40 or there abouts. Its basically political suicide on the part of the Republicans.
 
I'd call ASB for another reason, McCain is running after all and its essentially his to lose. I mean Rumsfield has openly called for war on three countries, i mean even the warhawks would have to be thinking twice on declaring against Iraq, Afghanistan and Saudi at the same time. That alone basically guarantees Gore (who is highly popular) gets over 400 EC votes and winning on a 60/40 or there abouts. Its basically political suicide on the part of the Republicans.

Then again, by this point, Saudi Arabi, an American “ally” is under the control of a known terrorist along with Afghanistan and then there was Iraq plus the oil crisis.
 
Then again, by this point, Saudi Arabi, an American “ally” is under the control of a known terrorist along with Afghanistan and then there was Iraq plus the oil crisis.

True, but three wars at once is asking for trouble, especially given most of their allies would be hesitant at best or will simply refuse to go at worst into some of the warzones (especially Iraq). I mean even if Gore gets re-elected, i think its likely the Saudi war occurs though.
 
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