Weimar Germany survives.

((THIS IS ME PROPOSING AN THEORY))

Weimar Germany begins to lower the economical woes of the people with an economical expert brought in from America. The economy turns for the up-better and Hitler remains an influential politican, eventually obtaining an spot as the Bavarian Prime Minister. The National Socialist Party continues to live on in Weimar Germany even in to the later on decades (such as 2010 and etc.) but has greatly lost it's reichstag seats only holding 12 seats as of 2013. the Communist Party and SA members regularly battle on the streets of Munich and Berlin infront of Tourists. Weimar Germany thanks to WWII never happening has been able to keep an long distance relationship with it's Prussian Roots and even has numerous uniforms based on such traditions. The city of Danzig that was the center of Hitler's numerous debates? It was ceded to Germany after numerous riots and horrendous crimes against Polish people by german facists and nazis. World War 2 still happens however due to the Japanese Empire invading half of Asia and causing nearly total destruction of Asian infrastructure. The Germans were still the first to make the Assault Rifle to counter-attack the Japaneses rapid-firing weapons (which were all trench based, mind you.) but it was much better and produced in rapid numbers and larger numbers and it was produced in 1941 instead of 1943. It was termed the Sturmgewehr-41 (it looked pretty much like the MP-44) and it fell in to numerous hands (soviets, americans, japanese, english.) and they made there own variants (I'm sure you know what the americans, soviets made.) but due to America not having Einstein. The atomic bomb is never realized and remains an fantasy weapon and due to this the japanese home-islands are invaded by both Soviet and Americans. The Soviets and Americans met midway at the Japanese Home-islands and set occupational zones along with Korea. North And South Korea, North and South Japan. North Japan and North Korea do not form an alliance obviously due to the warcrimes commited by Japan. An much different form of the Cold-War commences. From what happens here is your imagination as I have no idea.

Here are some uniform designs that I made regarding my fantasy theory.

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Kongzilla

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I don't believe the STG-41 would have been thought of, the idea behind it was to counter the large soviet numbers I believe and if Japan was getting it's ass handed to it by America, Britain and China imagine what will happen if the rest of the world dogpiles on as well.

The Nuclear weapon would be thought of, simply for the sake of being a bigger explosion. Since strategic bombing would probably remain in effect as being a good military tool.
 
Simple Hitler die in the beer hall putsch in 1923 and the Weimar republic has more chance to survive. I sincerly doubt that Danzig would be ceded to Germany especially if it's Polish citizens were opressed by German extremist. And WWII cannot be started by Japan alone the British and the French could deal with them if they are not distracted in Europe.
 
I don't believe the STG-41 would have been thought of, the idea behind it was to counter the large soviet numbers I believe and if Japan was getting it's ass handed to it by America, Britain and China imagine what will happen if the rest of the world dogpiles on as well.

The Nuclear weapon would be thought of, simply for the sake of being a bigger explosion. Since strategic bombing would probably remain in effect as being a good military tool.
I agree with the first point. There's simply no point in the Weimar Republic creating an assault rifle. They don't need it and there is nothing to prompt its construction.

I'd say it'd be thought of, but it'd just be a theory.
 

ingemann

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Im sure i dont understand why 'bringing in an expert from america' is supposed to turn the economy around...

In fact seeing the history of bringing economic expert in from America, I have a hard time not seeing thing end up worse. Germany had it own school of economics and it seem preferable to anything the Americans could send over.
 

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I suggest you read some of Sebastian Haffner's writing particularly his Hitler biography. There he pretty much spells out that once Bruening became chancellor democracy in GErmany was doomed.The olny question was whether old school monarchists would start an authoritarian regime or well OTL. If you want to have Weimar survive I suggest three things that prevent a chancellor-dictatorship in the style of Bruening, Von Papen and Schleicher: First have Ebert survive he would never appont Hitler, second have Stresemann survive (See Holding out for a hero), he migth be able to form a parlamentary majority, third have Wilhelm Marx win in 1925 against Hindenburg, since he would insist on the chancellor having a Parlamentary majority.
 

katchen

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So how would Bruening, Von Papen or Schleicher have ruled Germany had Hitler been butterflied out of the picture? Would Germany still have gone on the warpath? If so, in what direction?
 
((THIS IS ME PROPOSING AN THEORY))

Weimar Germany begins to lower the economical woes of the people with an economical expert brought in from America. The economy turns for the up-better and Hitler remains an influential politican, eventually obtaining an spot as the Bavarian Prime Minister. The National Socialist Party continues to live on in Weimar Germany even in to the later on decades (such as 2010 and etc.) but has greatly lost it's reichstag seats only holding 12 seats as of 2013. the Communist Party and SA members regularly battle on the streets of Munich and Berlin infront of Tourists. Weimar Germany thanks to WWII never happening has been able to keep an long distance relationship with it's Prussian Roots and even has numerous uniforms based on such traditions. The city of Danzig that was the center of Hitler's numerous debates? It was ceded to Germany after numerous riots and horrendous crimes against Polish people by german facists and nazis. World War 2 still happens however due to the Japanese Empire invading half of Asia and causing nearly total destruction of Asian infrastructure. The Germans were still the first to make the Assault Rifle to counter-attack the Japaneses rapid-firing weapons (which were all trench based, mind you.) but it was much better and produced in rapid numbers and larger numbers and it was produced in 1941 instead of 1943. It was termed the Sturmgewehr-41 (it looked pretty much like the MP-44) and it fell in to numerous hands (soviets, americans, japanese, english.) and they made there own variants (I'm sure you know what the americans, soviets made.) but due to America not having Einstein. The atomic bomb is never realized and remains an fantasy weapon and due to this the japanese home-islands are invaded by both Soviet and Americans. The Soviets and Americans met midway at the Japanese Home-islands and set occupational zones along with Korea. North And South Korea, North and South Japan. North Japan and North Korea do not form an alliance obviously due to the warcrimes commited by Japan. An much different form of the Cold-War commences. From what happens here is your imagination as I have no idea.

Here are some uniform designs that I made regarding my fantasy theory.

sorry that's fantasy,
the only way to save Weimar Germany, is a bullet in brain of Adolf Hitler, best during Beer Hall Putsch in 1923 !
why ? Hitler was obsessive to get total power in Germany, destroy democracy and kill million of people who Hitler consider as subhuman.
and without Hitler the National Socialist Party under Strasser/Rhömer would move more towards Communist. what make them enemy to Right fraction like Stahlhelm and Reichswehr.

your idea that Germany Goes in War with Japanese Empire, lack a Major thing: a Reason !
what about this, Weimar got relation ship with Republic of China, under leadership of Chiang Kai-shek (who visit Prussian military academy in 1905-1911).
Weimar Germany has colse diplomatic and economic contact with Republic of China, until the Japanese invasion of Manchuria in 1937
but this means the WW2 start in 1937.

on Atomic Bomb
Einstein never work on the Atomic Bomb, he even refuse to do so, his only involvement was writhe a letter to President Franklin Delano Roosevelt,
urging to build the Atomic Bomb before the Nazi got one.
although the idea that Weimar Germany drop a atomic bomb on Tokyo and occupy Japan has something intriguing.
a postwar Japan would look very much like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1dxR4lsJN4
 
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