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The House of Saud wasn’t meant to last a century.

They were the supreme example of incompetents and nepotists, installing their family members into crucial positions despite the availability of capable individuals. The Saudi state apparatus had no real way of appointing people, for all of its key posts were filled by members of the House of Saud. Yet the kingdom’s control over one resource—oil—allowed the Saudis to paper over all dissent, giving their citizens a generous welfare state at the cost of their political liberties. There was no national job-training regimen, yes. There was a severe lack of jobs that were not in the petroleum industry, yes. There was quite simply no future for millions of Saudis, but as long as the oil flowed the Saudis were able to keep their people sated.

Until one day, the wells ran dry.

Many expected the Kingdom’s oil reserves to last far longer, but the Iran War drove consumption to unprecedented levels. In addition Iran bombed ARAMCO facilities with drones, disrupting what was left of the oil industry. King Salman’s economic diversification plans were still in their infancy and only 20% of the Saudi population was actively employed in non-petrol careers.

Soon, many disaffected Saudis took to the streets to riot and protest. When the military cracked down on the rioters, the riots soon blazed into a revolution. Revolution led to civil war as the Saudi military battled the newly-formed Arabian Liberation Army, watering the sands with blood.

From this chaotic din a new plant bore fruit- the Brotherhood of Restitution to the Faith, simply known as the Brotherhood. They began as a fringe eco-Salafist movement formed during the early days of the civil war, and gained strength as the Arabian Liberation Army was defeated by American intervention. Inspired by the success of the Islamic State, they embarked on a lightning offensive from their stronghold of Buraydah against Riyadh. The siege of Riyadh was intense—some of the most intense in the entire conflict, in fact—but they managed to gain a toehold in the suburbs. From there they initiated a media and propaganda campaign aimed at winning over members of the Saudi National Guard, to turn their tide in their favor.

The rise of the Brotherhood gripped the world, especially the wider Islamic world, in fear. None of them wanted another Islamic State, especially one so close to the Holy Cities. Yet at the same time, the United States had drawn down its forces in Saudi Arabia to focus on its internal crisis…

So the world watched as the Saudi National Guard turned on the House of Saud and joined the Brotherhood in capturing Riyadh, vanquishing the Saudis and beginning a humanitarian crisis as millions of refugees fled the burning wreckage of the city.

Yet this is not the end of the Saudi civil war, as Muslim UN forces and the remnants of the Arabian Liberation Army are countering the Brotherhood’s attempts to conquer the Holy Cities. Time will tell if this insurgent group can engrave its name in the already-long-lists of political extremists that have seized power…​
 

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The House of Saud wasn’t meant to last a century.

They were the supreme example of incompetents and nepotists, installing their family members into crucial positions despite the availability of capable individuals. The Saudi state apparatus had no real way of appointing people, for all of its key posts were filled by members of the House of Saud. Yet the kingdom’s control over one resource—oil—allowed the Saudis to paper over all dissent, giving their citizens a generous welfare state at the cost of their political liberties. There was no national job-training regimen, yes. There was a severe lack of jobs that were not in the petroleum industry, yes. There was quite simply no future for millions of Saudis, but as long as the oil flowed the Saudis were able to keep their people sated.

Until one day, the wells ran dry.

Many expected the Kingdom’s oil reserves to last far longer, but the Iran War drove consumption to unprecedented levels. In addition Iran bombed ARAMCO facilities with drones, disrupting what was left of the oil industry. King Salman’s economic diversification plans were still in their infancy and only 20% of the Saudi population was actively employed in non-petrol careers.

Soon, many disaffected Saudis took to the streets to riot and protest. When the military cracked down on the rioters, the riots soon blazed into a revolution. Revolution led to civil war as the Saudi military battled the newly-formed Arabian Liberation Army, watering the sands with blood.

From this chaotic din a new plant bore fruit- the Brotherhood of Restitution to the Faith, simply known as the Brotherhood. They began as a fringe eco-Salafist movement formed during the early days of the civil war, and gained strength as the Arabian Liberation Army was defeated by American intervention. Inspired by the success of the Islamic State, they embarked on a lightning offensive from their stronghold of Buraydah against Riyadh. The siege of Riyadh was intense—some of the most intense in the entire conflict, in fact—but they managed to gain a toehold in the suburbs. From there they initiated a media and propaganda campaign aimed at winning over members of the Saudi National Guard, to turn their tide in their favor.

The rise of the Brotherhood gripped the world, especially the wider Islamic world, in fear. None of them wanted another Islamic State, especially one so close to the Holy Cities. Yet at the same time, the United States had drawn down its forces in Saudi Arabia to focus on its internal crisis…

So the world watched as the Saudi National Guard turned on the House of Saud and joined the Brotherhood in capturing Riyadh, vanquishing the Saudis and beginning a humanitarian crisis as millions of refugees fled the burning wreckage of the city.

Yet this is not the end of the Saudi civil war, as Muslim UN forces and the remnants of the Arabian Liberation Army are countering the Brotherhood’s attempts to conquer the Holy Cities. Time will tell if this insurgent group can engrave its name in the already-long-lists of political extremists that have seized power…​
Oh my 😱
 
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THE FEDERATION OF MECCA (1926 - Present Day)

In another timeline, the House of Saud would have gotten away with their evil plans for oppression.

Under the iron yoke of the founder of the Third Saudi State, and his imams followers of the Wahhabite school of Sunni Islam, Abdelaziz ben Abderrahman Al Saúd, the population of what was known at the time as the "Kingdom of Saudi Arabia" had lived under a heinous oppression even by the fairly low standards of the "Arab World". This dynasty would destroy the kingdoms of Hejaz and Nechd, which in an act of supreme arrogance would consolidate as "Kingdom of Saudi Arabia" in 1932. This kingdom, had it remained in power, would have become the main sponsor of an extremely aggressive version. and radicalization of Islam that would cause infinite problems for Muslims, both inside and outside Saudi Arabia, mainly due to the rigidity of the demands it imposed on the believers in Allah. All this would not have been achieved if it were not for the enormous fortunes in dollars that the ARAMCO company would put into Saud's pockets in exchange for obtaining its oil at a very good price, and for Saud to eradicate all forms of communism from the Arabian peninsula.

I mean, it had been like that in another timeline, but not this one. In this timeline, the Kingdom of Hejaz was better defended, as it had American advisers among its ranks. Among them, Murkus Horemheb would stand out, as he would be called among the inhabitants of Hejaz; to the rest of the world, he would simply be "the American T.E. Lawrence", something that General Horemheb was not happy with at all. (At present it is impossible to find out what was the original name of Murkus Horemheb, since all the information is classified by the CIA).

"I did a lot better than Lawrence. At least I got what I wanted. Although I do not blame him, he was betrayed by his superiors" he would later say, in one of the few interviews that he would grant to the BBC. (General Horemheb, like the great majority of members of the Government of the Federation of Mecca, would have problems getting interviewed by American media, mainly because of what the Government of the United States of America insists that it is "a betrayal of all our democratic and republican values, a filibuster more typical of William Walker ").

General Horemheb, originally sent in 1916 by the United States War Department to the Kingdom of Hejaz, as part of an attempt to secure a point of influence in the area, would remain in Hejaz, ignoring orders to transfer to Riyadh and lend his I support Saud.

The reason for such a decision is not a secret, since Horemheb himself would mention it openly when asked: he simply did not like the Saud, whom he saw as antiquated reactionaries and obsessed with destroying everything they did not like, "in the same suit as the fanatical priests of the Spanish Inquisition, you know, those who burned the books they didn't like."

At the head of the Hejaz armies, equipped with machine guns and other vehicles originally sold by the British, General Murkus Horemheb would face the forces of Saud in the famous Battle of Medina (1921), in which the hordes that passed by army among the Saudis they would be mercilessly swept away by the use of makeshift tachankas. The followers of Saud, more accustomed to looting campaigns, had not counted on having to face such firepower, so they would be eliminated.

Likewise, it is worth noting the use of aviation in this war; Although Hejaz's "aviation" was limited to a pair of fourth-hand Sopwith Camels, obtained from the black market, their use in the hands of Horemheb and his pilots would be instrumental in monitoring the movements of the Saudis in the subsequent Desert Campaign ( 1922-1925).

Of course, the British had been infuriated to see how their plan to prop up Saud was ruined by this meddling American and his loyal warriors, so they had demanded that the Kingdom of Hejaz immediately withdraw it and allow itself to be annexed. by Saud peacefully. Something to which Hejaz had replied "No."

Finally, in 1926, the Battle of Riyadh would be fought, in which the remnants of the House of Saud would be completely destroyed, as would the Wahhabi imams. The new authorities of the "Kingdom of Arabia" would be in charge of facing the wall and shooting all the Wahhabi imams they could lay their hands on; The Shiites of the peninsula would help in that mission, more than happy to get rid of "those crazy people who hate us."

By then, General Murkus Horemheb's power over his troops and over his people was so great that the King himself saw him as a threat and would try to eliminate him ... or that would have been the idea, were it not for Horemheb to move tab first; his elite forces, the Golden Sphinxes, would put the King of Hejaz and his entire family under arrest, charged with "treason against the Federation of Mecca and its ruler, General and President Murkus Horemheb."

That would be the first time that the official name of the new government would come to light.

World War II, with its enormous demands for fuel, would cause the Allies to reconsider their attitude towards the Federation of Mecca. Aware that he ran the risk of his country being invaded if he showed any sympathy for the Axis, General Horemheb would make sure to keep the Allies supplied with oil, which in turn would facilitate the reestablishment of relations with the outside world.

The terrible relations with the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, openly aligned with the Axis, would cause the authorities of the Federation of Mecca to reinforce that policy further. (The Mufti, when not cursing the Jews, uttered the vilest insults against the Federation of Mecca and its inhabitants for being "takfir (infidels) killers of brothers (the Wahhabi imams) and worshipers of a kaffir (a western foreigner) ".

In the period of the Cold War, the Federation of Mecca would consolidate itself as the local regional power; A campaign against communist North Yemen would end with the annexation of this region to controlled territory (which included OTL Saudi Arabia, Jordan and North Yemen) to the applause of the West, who saw this as proof that the Federation of Mecca at least he was not pro-communist. (With Israel the relationship would be much more cautious: the Federation would not join the 1948 War, mainly because they were rebuilding their country; negotiations with Israel would cause the Federation of Mecca to administer the West Bank region instead of the state. Palestinian, and later both would collaborate in the fight against religious extremism).

The "Federation of Mecca" is one of the few cases of a successful Arab democracy, although by Western standards it would be a hybrid democracy with a strong presence and importance of the military. The territories are organized into states, run by Sheikhs chosen from among citizens of legal age (until 1999 only men could vote), while the judicial system is based on a hybrid mixture of Islamic law and legal law based on the French Civil Code. (Horemheb and his original followers were fanboys of the Napoleonic Code.) Although there is a Federal Assembly, it is relatively normal for the most charismatic politicians to dominate it; the Arab Federal Army is by far the strongest and best organized state organization, in addition to being guaranteed the role of "government supervisor".

The main sources of wealth are the income generated by pilgrimages to Mecca (hajj), as well as trips to Jerusalem, and the export of oil and its derivatives; the authorities of the Federation of Mecca have endeavored to reinvest this money in services for the population and to diversify the economy so that it is not so dependent on oil. One of the main priorities of the Government is to guarantee the education of its citizens (and their loyalty to the Federation), as well as that they have opportunities to earn a living. Despite the advances in education, however, one of the main obstacles is the traditionalism of a large part of the population, which does not see very well the liberalization process that has taken place in favor of women since the 1970s (mainly influenced by the progressive fall of Iran into extremist fanaticism). Although the Federation is a secular state according to the 1932 Constitution, in practice 95% of the population practices various schools of Sunni Islam (the Wahhabite was extinct in the 30s and 40s of the 20th century).

The Mecca Federation faces the 21st century as the strong power in Arabia, facing an increasingly extremist Iran, being one of the few Arab states that gets along with Israel, and being criticized for its collaboration in efforts to eradicate the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, considered by the United States as part of an attempt to expand its influence in the region. Perhaps this explains why the Federation of Mecca has tried to seek to get closer to Europe and China ...


The flag: The flag uses the traditional Pan-Arab colors, being basically a redesign of the flag of the Kingdom of Hejaz (from which the Federation of Mecca is descended) with the colors changed position to represent the change of government. The legend in the center of the flag reads "There is no God but Allah" in reference to the Islamic nature of the nation and its people.
 
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The House of Saud wasn’t meant to last a century.

They were the supreme example of incompetents and nepotists, installing their family members into crucial positions despite the availability of capable individuals. The Saudi state apparatus had no real way of appointing people, for all of its key posts were filled by members of the House of Saud. Yet the kingdom’s control over one resource—oil—allowed the Saudis to paper over all dissent, giving their citizens a generous welfare state at the cost of their political liberties. There was no national job-training regimen, yes. There was a severe lack of jobs that were not in the petroleum industry, yes. There was quite simply no future for millions of Saudis, but as long as the oil flowed the Saudis were able to keep their people sated.

Until one day, the wells ran dry.

Many expected the Kingdom’s oil reserves to last far longer, but the Iran War drove consumption to unprecedented levels. In addition Iran bombed ARAMCO facilities with drones, disrupting what was left of the oil industry. King Salman’s economic diversification plans were still in their infancy and only 20% of the Saudi population was actively employed in non-petrol careers.

Soon, many disaffected Saudis took to the streets to riot and protest. When the military cracked down on the rioters, the riots soon blazed into a revolution. Revolution led to civil war as the Saudi military battled the newly-formed Arabian Liberation Army, watering the sands with blood.

From this chaotic din a new plant bore fruit- the Brotherhood of Restitution to the Faith, simply known as the Brotherhood. They began as a fringe eco-Salafist movement formed during the early days of the civil war, and gained strength as the Arabian Liberation Army was defeated by American intervention. Inspired by the success of the Islamic State, they embarked on a lightning offensive from their stronghold of Buraydah against Riyadh. The siege of Riyadh was intense—some of the most intense in the entire conflict, in fact—but they managed to gain a toehold in the suburbs. From there they initiated a media and propaganda campaign aimed at winning over members of the Saudi National Guard, to turn their tide in their favor.

The rise of the Brotherhood gripped the world, especially the wider Islamic world, in fear. None of them wanted another Islamic State, especially one so close to the Holy Cities. Yet at the same time, the United States had drawn down its forces in Saudi Arabia to focus on its internal crisis…

So the world watched as the Saudi National Guard turned on the House of Saud and joined the Brotherhood in capturing Riyadh, vanquishing the Saudis and beginning a humanitarian crisis as millions of refugees fled the burning wreckage of the city.

Yet this is not the end of the Saudi civil war, as Muslim UN forces and the remnants of the Arabian Liberation Army are countering the Brotherhood’s attempts to conquer the Holy Cities. Time will tell if this insurgent group can engrave its name in the already-long-lists of political extremists that have seized power…​
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FLAG CHALLENGE #246:
A Return to Truth

Description:

Make a flag showing a extremist religious/political group.

It can be of any ideology/religion/political group, just as long as they are fundamentalist in their doctrine/implementation.

Submissions Open: Now
Submissions Close: 12:00 AM at CST on May 5th
 
FLAG CHALLENGE #246:
A Return to Truth

Description:

Make a flag showing a extremist religious/political group.

It can be of any ideology/religion/political group, just as long as they are fundamentalist in their doctrine/implementation.

Submissions Open: Now
Submissions Close: 12:00 AM at CST on May 5th
That's awesome. I assume it has to be an OTL one?
 
The Unparalleled Revolution: The Workingmen's Party of America

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The federal response to the Great Depression has not been going smoothly under the auspices of President Palmer, and numerous groups presenting themselves as the saviors of the nation have come to the fore to challenge the political establishment in the 1936 elections. Although Huey Long and the rest of the Populist-Progressives see the Constitutional Unionists as a dead letter and have shifted their attention to campaigning against the newly formed Christian Party, out west something strange is brewing, as the Workingmen's Party, long the party of government in the Golden State and the rest of the west coast, has prepared to expand across the country, spreading Kearney-London Socialist Nationalism to every corner of the land.

With an agenda of wealth redistribution more radical than Long and a successful legacy of purifying California with which to challenge the upstart Pelley and his Silver Legion, the party is poised to make gains in the Congress, and possibly even to seize the presidency, all the better to cure the nation of the evils of capitalism and racial infiltration. Although now explicitly a national party, the WPA has not changed its flag, seen by many members of the party as a debt owed to their roots. The flag is a color-inverted version of the 1846 Bear Flag, the official flag of the California Republic before its annexation by the United States in 1850, with a California golden bear and an Arm, Hammer and Star representing Socialist Nationalism.

*Basically the Bear Flag Revolt succeeds, with the California Republic fighting alongside the US in the Mexican-American War and retaining the area of OTL California and Nevada when it gets annexed. Workingmen's Party leader Denis Kearney is elected governor in 1878, instituting a Jim Crow system aimed primarily at the Chinese population of the state, though his successor Jack London relaxes the parts of the system aimed at the state's Hispanic population in recognition of their important contribution to the Republic's fight for independence, and was also quite fond of the Japanese.

In the 1896 election, William Jennings Bryan loses out on the Democratic nomination, taking the Populists with him when he bolts the party, while Roosevelt does the same with the Republican Progressives in 1912. The dregs of both establishment parties coalesce into the Constitutional Unionists while the two radical parties merge. While they're looked down on as at best a regional threat compared to the Populist-Progressives and the Christian Party (which is far larger than real life, having absorbed quite a few southern Democrats), the WPA has an unsettlingly deep bench of support across the nation, and robust plans to purify the country, end capitalist and religious exploitation with a good strong rope and get grand revenge on the British Empire and Hongxian China for perceived interference in American interests.*
 
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Palmarian Catholic Church (Iglesia Palmariana)
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Right after his self-proclamation as Pope in 1978, Clemente Domínguez (as Gregory XVII) personally pondered of creating symbols that would represent his organization, with emphasis on his claim as the "legitimate" successor to Pope Paul VI and, in extension, the whole Palmarian Church as the "true" Catholic Church. After consulting his advisers on such matter, he firmly decided that creating symbols, most specifically an emblem and a flag, was a necessity in order to distinguish the Palmarians (the true Catholic church) from the rest of the society (the Gentiles, as seen from the Palmarian point of view). As direct contact with the "Gentiles" were already been restricted, the Palmarian emissaries had to disguised themselves to contact local amateur heraldic enthusiasts, who responded with letters suggesting symbols that highlighted its heritage through the group's whole name, la Iglesia Cristiana Palmariana de los Carmelitas de la Santa Faz (Palmarian Christian Church of the Carmelites of the Holy Face), something that Gregory XVII/Clemente Domínguez had gladly accepted, as evidenced in the letters of response using his civilian name. It was said that the Palmarian emissaries paid the local heraldic enthusiasts a sum of 49 million pesetas.

The flag of Palmarian Church reflected its claimed Carmelite heritage by using the brown color at the top, despite the obvious and understable opposition from the mainstream Carmelite orders, who declared that such use was considered as usurpation. At the bottom of the Palmarian bicolor is yellow, representing the claimed legitimacy of the said organization as the legitimate Catholic church, most especially its leader as the true Pope. At the upper left corner is the coat of arms of the Palmarian Church, which also reflected its heritage as a Carmelite order and its claim as a legitimate Catholic Church.
 
I was seized by inspiration and churned out another five six ideas 😅 the Workingmen's Party one I posted is still my favorite so the others will go in the general flag thread after the contest ends so I don't accidently skew anyone's subject selection or layout ideas
 
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The Sons of Liberty
The modern Sons of Liberty are a terrorist organisation based primarily in the North American Provinces of the Imperial British Commonwealth.
Their primary aim is secure "independence" of what they call the American Colonies from the "British Yoke" despite all provinces essentially having self governance and representation in the Commonwealth Council & Parliament.
Other aims generally include white and male supremacy.
Their willingness to target civilians and refusal to engage politically have ensured most countries label them a terrorist group.
Their flag derives from that of the original late 18th century Sons of Liberty, an organisation aimed at promoting independence of the eastern coast due to lack of representation in British Government, that became defunct following the establishment of the Chamber for Colonial Affairs under King Frederick I. It consists of 5 red and 4 white stripes. The modern group have added a red ringed pentagram. Both the stripes and star are alleged to represent the 5 liberties but only Freedom from Tax, Freedom to Carry Arms, and Freedom of Absolute Speech, are consistently present in the various tracts sent out by members.
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The Sons of Liberty
The modern Sons of Liberty are a terrorist organisation based primarily in the North American Provinces of the Imperial British Commonwealth.
Their primary aim is secure "independence" of what they call the American Colonies from the "British Yoke" despite all provinces essentially having self governance and representation in the Commonwealth Council & Parliament.
Other aims generally include white and male supremacy.
Their willingness to target civilians and refusal to engage politically have ensured most countries label them a terrorist group.
Their flag derives from that of the original late 18th century Sons of Liberty, an organisation aimed at promoting independence of the eastern coast due to lack of representation in British Government, that became defunct following the establishment of the Chamber for Colonial Affairs under King Frederick I. It consists of 5 red and 4 white stripes. The modern group have added a red ringed pentagram. Both the stripes and star are alleged to represent the 5 liberties but only Freedom from Tax, Freedom to Carry Arms, and Freedom of Absolute Speech, are consistently present in the various tracts sent out by members.
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Nice! An alternate Sons of Liberty was one of my unused alternate entrant ideas 😂 great minds think alike I guess
 
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