I need to check again myself, but this is actually #221 and the next one should be #222.
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I need to check again myself, but this is actually #221 and the next one should be #222.
I’ll re-number my round as 221, and invite the runner up to post a new challenge
I've just seen the above - I'll think of a new challenge by tomorrow evening hopefully... I know I had a few ideas some weeks ago but what with one thing and another my mind's gone blank tonight!
Even my suggestion list is bare at the moment.
I think Petike left one on the previous page.
And we can always revisit past ones.
A possible suggestion: flag for a fantasy country in a fantasy role playing game such as Dungeons and Dragons
How about flags for TV shows.
Could even been broken down into different challenges by Sit-Coms, Dramas, Sci-fi...
Could even been broken down into different challenges by Sit-Coms, Dramas, Sci-fi...
Thank you to all those who suggested ideas for the challenge. I've decided to go with something which allows lots of creative freedom:
A reminder of the rules:
A reminder of the rules:
The Grand Principality of the Atlantides (O Grão Principado das Atlantidas)
The Atlantides is the great archipelago that sprawls across the triple junction between the North American, African, and Eurasian tectonic plates, and named for the belief that its many islands are the remnants of Atlantis. Despite brief colonies by the Phoenicians/Carthaginians (primarily Tyrax) and Romans (Tyrrhenium) lasting colonisation was only achieved by the Portuguese in 1500s, largely due to a hiatus of volcanic activity.
During the Liberal Wars the archipelago hosted the forces of Maria II and in reward was made into a royal principality under the crown of the Algarve and thereafter traditionally governed by the (newly created) Duke of Terceira Oriental.
Following the creation of the Portuguese Republic the islands were often the source of monarchial rebellion.
During WW2 the Atlantides would serve as a base for the Allies under lease by the dictatorship.
With the end of the dictatorship the archipelago gained its independence forming a constitutional monarchy. The administration debated becoming a full kingdom but with the newly appointed Grand Prince Duarte Pio, ironically of the Miguelist Braganza line, also claiming the crown of Portugal it was deemed too politically insensitive.
The flag of the Principality is a simple blue white echo of the Portuguese flag bearing the small Princely Arms. Said Arms were adapted from the Portuguese Arms with castles removed and the blue quinas turned green. There are 8 in 3 rows - 3 3 2 - said to reflect the 3 main divisions and subdivisions of the archipelago: Terceira Oriental, Terceira Norte, and Terceira do Sul.
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Rather than go with a full Atlantis I have instead expanded greatly upon the Azores and mercilessly murdered butterflies (except for the interesting native species).]
The Atlantides is the great archipelago that sprawls across the triple junction between the North American, African, and Eurasian tectonic plates, and named for the belief that its many islands are the remnants of Atlantis. Despite brief colonies by the Phoenicians/Carthaginians (primarily Tyrax) and Romans (Tyrrhenium) lasting colonisation was only achieved by the Portuguese in 1500s, largely due to a hiatus of volcanic activity.
During the Liberal Wars the archipelago hosted the forces of Maria II and in reward was made into a royal principality under the crown of the Algarve and thereafter traditionally governed by the (newly created) Duke of Terceira Oriental.
Following the creation of the Portuguese Republic the islands were often the source of monarchial rebellion.
During WW2 the Atlantides would serve as a base for the Allies under lease by the dictatorship.
With the end of the dictatorship the archipelago gained its independence forming a constitutional monarchy. The administration debated becoming a full kingdom but with the newly appointed Grand Prince Duarte Pio, ironically of the Miguelist Braganza line, also claiming the crown of Portugal it was deemed too politically insensitive.
The flag of the Principality is a simple blue white echo of the Portuguese flag bearing the small Princely Arms. Said Arms were adapted from the Portuguese Arms with castles removed and the blue quinas turned green. There are 8 in 3 rows - 3 3 2 - said to reflect the 3 main divisions and subdivisions of the archipelago: Terceira Oriental, Terceira Norte, and Terceira do Sul.
[NOTE
Rather than go with a full Atlantis I have instead expanded greatly upon the Azores and mercilessly murdered butterflies (except for the interesting native species).]
Arms adapted from representation here by Bragancihno
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Confederation of Atlantis
The unification of Atlantis in 1871 was the culmination of many dreams over the 2000 years since the collapse of the Ancient Atlantian Empire following an immense seismic sea wave (believed to have been caused by the eruption of the volcano internationally known as Cumbre Vieja in the Canary Islands).
The flag of Atlantis features a gold sun with 10 stripes for each of the traditional Atlantian kingdoms, which are said to have been founded by sons of Posiedon.
I'm still not quite happy with the sun, but I don't think I'm going to get anything I like better before the deadline.
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The unification of Atlantis in 1871 was the culmination of many dreams over the 2000 years since the collapse of the Ancient Atlantian Empire following an immense seismic sea wave (believed to have been caused by the eruption of the volcano internationally known as Cumbre Vieja in the Canary Islands).
The flag of Atlantis features a gold sun with 10 stripes for each of the traditional Atlantian kingdoms, which are said to have been founded by sons of Posiedon.
I'm still not quite happy with the sun, but I don't think I'm going to get anything I like better before the deadline.
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I like the sun, it looks a bit like a sea urchin, and the concept of each tribe/citizen acting independently but still serving and protecting the whole would make a nice political metaphor at any rate, depending on the structure of the new state. The fact that OG Atlantis was characterized by concentric rings could also make the radiating design a more egalitarian symbol? I don't know. Nice work though.
Actually I had one other note: what if you changed the main color of the flag from blue to something like a burgundy? It seems counterintuitive I know, but hear me out:
- Given the research on color perception among the Classical Greeks, using burgundy as a "historic Atlantean color" could be a neat reference to Homer's "wine-dark sea" line, and could simultaneously be their equivalent of Tyrian purple given the historical power of the old Atlantean Empire (and the fact the color was made from sea snails)
- Second (and this is a deep cut), "The Scarlet Empire" is a dystopian novel about a socialist Atlantis published/set in 1906, so given the year the Confederation was founded it would be a somewhat amusing topical reference.
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These are some nice ideas, but I'm not sure which I'd go with until I pin the history down a bit more than "actual ancient Atlantis was an island west of the Canaries about the size of Italy, dominated the Atlantic Ocean coast from Cape Finisterre to Cape Juby before being destroyed by a mega-tsunami and breaking up into city-states, [rest of history], reunified at the same time as Germany and Italy, currently disputes ownership of the Canaries and Madeira".
The base concept for the sun was the Ancient Macedonian Vergina Sun with 10 major rays following the ten ancient kingdoms of Atlantis.
As that is more of a Macedonian symbol, I'm unsure what I'd use, except maybe a large Alpha, similar to how Sparta and Laconia use a large Lambda.
I like the sun as a symbol, the sea urchin thing was just a coincidental double meaning to my mind. Either way an Atlantis that goes the way of Germany/Italy would make a pretty interesting TL.
What about hybridizing the sun designs? Put a blue dot in the center of this sun to symbolize the traditional five rings of ancient Atlantis and make the rays longer like the original design for the ten tribes.
I will go with a variation of this, as I've read that ancient Atlantis has three circular canals.
Confederation of Atlantis
It was in August 1871 that a united Atlantis could be said to exist once more. In the face of continued encroachment by Britain, France, Spain, and Portugal, the archons and autocrats of the island of Atlantis, from the mountains of the north to the plains of the south, yielded to Atlantian nationalism to form the Confederation of Atlantis - a union of brother-kingdoms once more ruled from the ancient city of Poseidonis in shadow of the Trident Mountains. It had been nearly 2500 years since a mostly-unified Atlantis was ruled from Poseidonis, when the Ancient Atlantian Empire, consisting of ten kingdoms said to be founded by sons of Poseidon, had imposed its will over the Atlantic coasts of Iberia and North Africa until it was destroyed circa 600 BCE by a seismic sea wave caused by the eruption of the volcano internationally known as Cumbre Vieja in the Canary Islands.
The flag design reflects more on the ancient history of Atlantis than the modern state, with ten stripes and a sun with ten rays for the ten ancient kingdoms, and three blue circles within the sun for the three canals which ringed the ancient and modern capital city of Poseidonis.
More backstory to come whenever I figure it out