Weekly Flag Challenge: Discussion & Entries
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Apologies for the delay; RL has been a bit hectic recently. Here is the next challenge.
Edited to change second 'Voting Opens' to 'Voting Closes' - oops!
Edited to change second 'Voting Opens' to 'Voting Closes' - oops!
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The Confederation of Murcia
الِاتِّحَاد مُرْسِيَة (Al-Ittiḥād Mursiya)
La Confederación de Murcia
The Confederation of Murcia was formed by the Cuyper Accords to help resolve the Tribulations [1] following the Republican Wars. Like most of the Mediterranean Republics it had a triune State Council acting as Head of State, although most of its powers were delegated to the First Secretary. This being because each State Councillor was themselves a Head of State: the Princes-General of the Aragonese Republic, the Ra's of the Republic of Granada, and the King of the Commonwealth [2]. Pragmatically these were typically the Medial Prince-General, a Wazir of Murcia, and a Lord Lieutenant of Murcia (usually also of the Balearic Protectorate).
The Accords also mandated rotating the First Secretariat among Gharbi Muslim, Papal Catholic, and Sephardic Jew, with Secretaries of Government having portfolios for each. Half the Members of the Assembly are also assigned to each religious denomination at each census (currently 43% Muslim, 42% Christian, 15% Jewish) though it's not always clear if the Member is an actual practitioner rather than nominal.
The Flag of the Confederation itself is a compromise based on the historical and neighbouring flags albeit the Commission headed by Lord Lieutenant Miles FitzGerald carried through aesthetic considerations [3]. Blue is for Aragon, Red for Granada, White for peace, 3 stripes for the 3 major religions, 2 stars for the main traditional divisions of the region.
[1] Think OTL Troubles crossed with the Yugoslav Wars
[2] England, Denmark, Ireland, the Netherlands, Wendland, and the Overseas Territories
[3] No damn maps on flags!
[NB If anyone wants to provide some linguistic help for alt Mozarabic, Murcian, etc. translations this will cited gratefully!!!]
الِاتِّحَاد مُرْسِيَة (Al-Ittiḥād Mursiya)
La Confederación de Murcia
The Confederation of Murcia was formed by the Cuyper Accords to help resolve the Tribulations [1] following the Republican Wars. Like most of the Mediterranean Republics it had a triune State Council acting as Head of State, although most of its powers were delegated to the First Secretary. This being because each State Councillor was themselves a Head of State: the Princes-General of the Aragonese Republic, the Ra's of the Republic of Granada, and the King of the Commonwealth [2]. Pragmatically these were typically the Medial Prince-General, a Wazir of Murcia, and a Lord Lieutenant of Murcia (usually also of the Balearic Protectorate).
The Accords also mandated rotating the First Secretariat among Gharbi Muslim, Papal Catholic, and Sephardic Jew, with Secretaries of Government having portfolios for each. Half the Members of the Assembly are also assigned to each religious denomination at each census (currently 43% Muslim, 42% Christian, 15% Jewish) though it's not always clear if the Member is an actual practitioner rather than nominal.
The Flag of the Confederation itself is a compromise based on the historical and neighbouring flags albeit the Commission headed by Lord Lieutenant Miles FitzGerald carried through aesthetic considerations [3]. Blue is for Aragon, Red for Granada, White for peace, 3 stripes for the 3 major religions, 2 stars for the main traditional divisions of the region.
[1] Think OTL Troubles crossed with the Yugoslav Wars
[2] England, Denmark, Ireland, the Netherlands, Wendland, and the Overseas Territories
[3] No damn maps on flags!
[NB If anyone wants to provide some linguistic help for alt Mozarabic, Murcian, etc. translations this will cited gratefully!!!]
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Granada
The last of the Moorish kingdoms in the Iberian peninsula, the Emirate managed to preserve its independence from the Spaniards to the north. The Nasrids maintained control of their kingdom through the centuries, keeping an uneasy peace with Spain. The country languished under leadership of its ruling dynasty, a shadow of itself. Temporarily aligning with France, Granada agreed to occupy parts of the nation in return for economic aid. When Arthur Wellesley liberated Spain from the French, Granada soon found itself under British occupation that would last for two years. In 1832, after years of inept leadership, the citizens rose against the sultan and proclaimed a republic. The sultan was forced to fee to neighboring Morocco. The republic is a parliamentarian democracy lead by a Grand Vazir.
The flag uses red and gold as a homage to the original flag of the emirate of Granada. The two pillars symbolize the mountains the nation rests in and the sea that borders it. The center is the seal of Granada.
The last of the Moorish kingdoms in the Iberian peninsula, the Emirate managed to preserve its independence from the Spaniards to the north. The Nasrids maintained control of their kingdom through the centuries, keeping an uneasy peace with Spain. The country languished under leadership of its ruling dynasty, a shadow of itself. Temporarily aligning with France, Granada agreed to occupy parts of the nation in return for economic aid. When Arthur Wellesley liberated Spain from the French, Granada soon found itself under British occupation that would last for two years. In 1832, after years of inept leadership, the citizens rose against the sultan and proclaimed a republic. The sultan was forced to fee to neighboring Morocco. The republic is a parliamentarian democracy lead by a Grand Vazir.
The flag uses red and gold as a homage to the original flag of the emirate of Granada. The two pillars symbolize the mountains the nation rests in and the sea that borders it. The center is the seal of Granada.
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Here is the poll: https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/poll-for-weekly-flag-challenge-№-212.478201/
Good luck to both entrants!
Good luck to both entrants!
I'm always partial to Antarctica flags, just saying. The ones OTL are really uninspired
Well, I've always wanted to make flags of successor states to distant space colonies.
OTL nation-states dominated by a different regional culture, as in France dominated by Provence, China dominated by Guangdong, Spain by Catalonia. Flag of the nation.
Regional separatism in such a country (by the OTL dominant region). Flag of the region.
Overseas colonialism in such a scenario. Flag of the colony.
Regional separatism in such a country (by the OTL dominant region). Flag of the region.
Overseas colonialism in such a scenario. Flag of the colony.
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I can't remember what thread it was but someone mentioned they were so sick of the "English-speaking British Argentina" AH meme that they wanted to see an America that spoke Pennsylvania Deutch as a counterbalance.
I guess it's Isekai time. :3
EDIT: Also, is the post-colonial nation confined to one world, or can it transcend two (or more) as long as there's an active portal?
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Awesome! Can I make two flags, e.g the Colonial flag and the post colonial one?
So long as they're used like bridges then I see no reason to exclude them.
My original plan was for that idea. If enough want to do 2 flags I can revert it. Otherwise your other flag would have to be reduced to a link.