Weekly Flag Challenge: Discussion & Entries

Imperial City of Sankt Petersburg (1921-2005)

RUS.png


Context
The main idea behind this (which unfortunately i never had the chance to develop further), would be that instead of abdicating Tsar Nicholas II would rally his loyalists and secure Sankt Pertersburg, and maintain a hold of it through the entire civil war. Instead of reoccupying the revolutionary controlled land the Tsar would seek to turn the city into a stronghold, and defend the position under the idea that the revolution would fizzle out due to lack of organisation. This would later prove false as much like in our timeline the bolsheviks would assume control eventually. A siege that would spand multiple years would see no results for either side, the loyalist faction would endure anything, while the bolsheviks would continue pressing having secured control over the former Russian Empire. Foreign intervention was inevitable, as such The Helsinki Congress, an international assembly comprising representatives from multiple nations, took place, in 1920, to decide the fate of the civil war and ensure an end. It was here that it was decided that the city of Sankt Petersburg should remain independent. However most residents resented the idea, as most felt more sympathy to the bolshevik cause. Fearing a potential internal revolution, the Tsarists started purging the disidents, which caused multiple residents to flee to the Soviet Union, or through it to Finland; which were later captured and trialed as traitors, desertors and enemies of the state. The main class that remained within the city limits, as well as sought refuge in Sankt Petersburg were higher class citizens, busniess owners and landowners, a large portion being jewish as well, fleeing the communist persecution. Due to this the city-state became a strong commercial center, following its rebuilding after the civil war.

The city specialized gradually for finnancial services, especially in securities trading and banking, and would also ofen being described as "the second Switzerland" or "the eastern London". In stark contrast to the Soviet Union the city-state the majority of it's citizens would only be upper class and upper-middle, and this would be aided by an overall lack of taxation, as due to its small size, the state budget could be raised mostly through bonds, which also catalized the trading business. As such the city, and citizens, became associated with the finnancial industry, which would also lead to stereotyping in the foreign media, through association with its large jewish community. The citizens however embraced this identy, and would in fact welcome jewish refugees in the coming years, transforming its stereotypical population , into its own brand of community.

The city remained mostly neutral through the Second World War and the Cold War, though being more open to the western world rather than the third world, remaining a tsarist monarchy until the dawn of the new millenium, when the Soviet Union collapsed. Thus talks of reunion with the former nation begun. The city would reintegrate in the new Russian Federation in 2005, as a special administrative zone, while the tsar would abdicate, the family would retain a number of special privilleges.

Symbolism
The Flag is based on the original city flag of Sankt Petersburg, with red white saltire bearing its dominant colors, the saltire being the symbol of Saint Andrew the Apostle. The blue field was added to complete the pan slavic colors scheme, and also to contrast the red flag of the bolsheviks. The double headed eagle would be added after the armistice, to symbolize and reinforce the idea that the tsar officially governs the city-state. The flag would continue to be used as the city flag after its integration in the Russian Federation.
 
Last edited:
Flag Challenge #239: Naturally Natural

This one is pretty simple. Create a flag that includes an animal or plant, not commonly seen on flags or coats of arms. Common animals for example are eagles, lions and horses and common plants are palm trees, oak trees and also laurels. Other creatures that do not count towards the challenge are humans and mystical beasts( dragons, and stuff).
There aren't any rules as to what the flag can represent, and it can contain one or more motiffs of your chosing, as long as at least one fits the challenge.

Here are some some links that may be usefull in seeing what is common.
Flags with animals
Flags with plants

Submissions: Open
Submissions close: January 11th
 
EC27420A-A336-4E4A-83FB-EF4DE83B47FE.png


Flag of Sichuan consists of four blue bars, representing four initial districts that formed Sichuan in the year 1001 AD. The three white bars constitutes the hanzi of “Chuan”, short for “”Sichuan”.

Chili represents Sichuanese culture and character, as the Sichuanese are known for their preference for spicy food. It is also a symbol of their straitforwardsness and hot temper.
 
Last edited:
"...For all the tea in China"

Really simple design using Tea leaves on a green (i.e. ethnographically neutral) background, however, the banding across the bottom shows the "5 nations" of China (lifted directly from OTL Five Coloured Flag. Tea leaves were chosen due to the importance to the Chinese economy of the vast exports of tea to the world (mainly the British Empire and also you cant really have an Opium poppy on a flag, or can you?). Anyway, Tea also plays a ubiquitous part in the culture of all nations of the Chinese Republic, and so serves as a commonality for the continued union of the 5 peoples.

茶.png
 
Congrats @Slartibartfast, you've won the challenge!

Flag Challenge #240: Colour blind

Something I live with is colour-blindness, in particular the colours Red, Blue and Green cause me great trouble. As it happens, the vast majority of OTL flags contain these very colours. This challenge is to design a new flag for an OTL country without using the colours Red, Blue, Green and, for added fiendishness, no White either!

It can be any OTL country with any colour scheme (except the aforementioned) and any design or symbolisms.

Good Luck!

Submissions: Open
Submissions close: January 27th

EDIT: @Slartibartfast I took the liberty of posting your challenge here as well, so it's easily seen
 
Last edited:
My Entry:

Flag2.png


An alternate flag of Germany loosely based on the flag of the Dutchy of Nassau, using only Orange and Black. The flag features 3 Borromean Rings, mean to simbolize the federal states, being part of the federation whilst being autonomous of eachother, as well as the 3 Powers of State, ( Legislative, Executive, Judicial), being 3 separate entities that can only function together. The rings also evoke a germanic spirit through their resemblance of a Valknut.
 
Principate of Telmar
The thalassocratic kingdom that rules the western coasts of the Narnian continent takes its name from its coastal capital La Ciuta Santelmar itself named for the Telmarine principle holy figure Saint Elmo. Saint Elmo is held to be the final messenger of God, the Holy King of Kings beyond the Seas; the latter being the reason Telmar's de facto kings merely hold their highest title as Prince.
The castle known as La Rocha Santelmar is said to be constructed by the first Prince Ghilmo who claimed to be the youngest son of Prince Gione of La Rocha del Aten, who directly served the Holy King of Kings, who Telmarine priests decree held Aten/Athene as one of his divine names.
The flag of Telmar is a 3x3 orange and gold check bearing black flames representing St Elmo's Eternal Fire. The beacons present in the lighthouses maintained as seafacing temples by the Telmarine Priesthood are said to originate from these born by the ships of their founders.
The flag is a reconstruction of the original discovered by the Mirazzi Dynasty during renovations of the Rock and said to be based on the Arms of Prince Ghilmo and his father.
The Arms of the 3 major families are similar:
Mirazzi - black eagle over orange and white (later gold) checks
Firenzi - red lys over orange and white checks
Caspiani (current ruling dynasty) - black lion over orange and gold checks

Telmar S.png
 
Last edited:
The Oriental Marches
A.K.A.
Christendom-Upon-the-Yellow-Sea
Holy Dominion of the Yellow Sea of Christ the King (official name)

ColourBlindChina.png


"The Christians of the Orient have always been a curiosity. Since the Oda Shogunate unified the Jippenese Isles, many missionaries flowed into the main island of Yamato, allowed by the Shogun's great friendship with the missionary Luis Frois. In turn, Frois would have a friendship with Nobunaga's heir, whose son would hold friendship with Frois' successor as chief missionary, and so on until Shogun Nobunaga X would formally convert himself and the Oda Clan. This was not without controversy, of course. For the Shogun ruled second to the Emperor, whom with the supposed divinity of his bloodline, acted in a Papal capacity. The ensuing conflict would split the Isles for many years. The Jippenese would face great persecution for their faith in the decades to follow, but for many it only solidified the hold of Christ over his faithful. They continued to spread the Gospel to those masses suffering in the wars to unite the Isles once more..."

- God in Jippen by Thomas Kinder​

"...and thus this news arrived first in Portugal and in Spain. However, it spread rapidly across Europe, and a number of young missionaries grew starry-eyed. Since Rudolf's Crusade had shattered the Turks, and the on-going Eleventh Crusade was slowly reestablishing Christian ownership of the Holy Land, missionary work had seen an explosion in support. To spread the Gospel by tongue rather than by blade was a noble calling for any nobleman or commoner who did not have the prowess to earn glory in battle. Tales of Magnus of Tunis, Eamon Prestor of Antalya, and even the Josephines of Qairoh had in fact made some believe they could gain more glory and piety than in battle.

But to journey to the Balkans or to the conquered coasts of Libya and Egypt was increasingly seen as 'safe' and 'common'. Though not the truth by any means, some wanted to distinguish themselves and brave a truly new frontier. It was by chance Lucas Bridge, on his voyage to the island of Yamato, having even begun studying the fundamentals of Jippenese, found himself in China. The voyage had been long and grueling, and it was thanks only to a hired interpreter that they managed to take port in China. They planned only to repair their vessel and purchase rations before leaving for Yamato. Father Bridge, however, having loathed to be on a boat for any longer than needed, grew enamored by the place before him.

While Bridge would travel to Yamato, he could not stop thinking about China, about the city of Canton. It was without permission that he and his followers entered China. So began the first of his two expeditions...

...In this bold second attempt they moved inland, away from the more populous shore where they might be caught. It was in Xi'an that they found true success, as the city had grown neglected due to the conflicts in the South facing the reigning Dyansty. Father Bridge, having amassed a following of converts, used these native speakers of Hanish to find even more...

...but not without casualties. 30 of Father Bridge's disciples would be executed, crucified in cruel mockery, while Bridge barely escaped with only a missing nose. He would never see China again, but he had laid the seeds for years to come."

- The Bridge Between Worlds by Mother Superior Miriam J. DuVaulle​

"The Yongxi Emperor's generosity was great. He welcomed foreign trade, and allowed Christianity to grow oncemore. But his actions were not out of blind compassion. Foreign weapons and foreign advisors had seen his family rise of peasants to rulers, and the Shu Dynasty had again been saved by similar methods during the Cai Rebellion. He did not wish to become dependent on these outsiders, but hoped that allowing more in would grant him greater access to their ways and technology, such that he might replicate it and reproduce it for himself without them.

What Yongxi failed to realize was the tyranny of his father's reign, his brother's reign, and his mother's regency had created an environment ripe for conversions. But while most feared and expected a rise of Chinese Christians to come from foreign interference, it instead came from within...

...Lu John Wangchen was born in Xi'an to a Confucian father and a secretly Christian mother. From his upbringing, he created syncretic beliefs that have evermore caused tension between Occidental and Oriental Christians. However, his sect spread like a weed, in secret. His rebellion was carefully planned, and he spent nearly five years away in the Jippenese Isles, primarily Yamato and Tsukushi, entrusting his movement to the wife of his sister and first convert Hong Joshua Pengli. His coordination with the archdiocese and the His Holiness' Fraternal Order of the Rising Sun is what made everything possible. He returned to sack Peiping, an act described as 'a foul necessity' to demonstrate the 'conviction of the Christians of the Yellow Sea against the Kinh and Yue usurpers.'"

- On the History of Oriental Christians from Alopen to Jian Paul Sunwu by Dr. Wang Felicity Limei​

"The Oriental Marches are the most common name for this region. Comprised of most the Corean Peninsula, the northeastern coast of China, and the southern islands of the Jippenese Isles, the true capital is Singan, natively called Xi'an, though much administration is done in the formal capital of Zhenzhufu. The Marches are still a frontier of Christendom, and the government operates much like a military command. Knights and bishops are often one and the same, comparable to the Principality of Nzaire or the Outremerate of Nouvelle-Bethléem. Given tensions with neighboring heathen states, it is a necessity. The maritime nature of the Marches has also not diminished in the modern era, thanks in large part to innovations in mines and depth charges keeping their waters dangerous to all but those they transmit ever changing maps to."

- Personal Journal of Explorer Archibald Phinneas Cratch, 1939​

"For centuries the Xianese Cross has represented those Christians in the Orient, usurping the Blossomed Cross even amongst Jippenese Christians sometime in the 18th or 19th Century. Based largely on the ancient Nestorian Crosses used on the tombs of Christians from antiquity, it features a flower and petals at the center of the cross, representing the compassion of Christ. Tradition had the cross displayed with a lotus flower, which some suspect symbolized the growth of Christianity in Oriental climes. It became more officially used in 18th Century, and is now standardized...

...Thus the cross' importance in this affair explains its rise as a symbol for all Christians of the Orient, but particularly those of the Lu Sect. It features place of prominence on the banner of the Oriental Marches. The green of the flag represents the Lu Sects claim that the God of Abraham is also the Jade Lord, or Jade Emperor, which controlled the Heavens of China. They claim that Jade is a sacred stone and sacred color, representing how God and his court of angels first attempted to bring order and salvation to the Orient.

The three pink stripes represent not just the Holy Trinity, but the Lu Sects 'Trinity of Honor'. To be brief, this concept was created by the Sects founder to describe how one should live their life honorably, with there being three facets of honor: respect for thy mother, father, and ancestors; charity and compassion to all strangers and neighbors; resolution of faith against all temptation. As the sect asserts, one must do all three things by reflex, and not see them as three separate tenets, but universal concept of honor, each aspect being innately required to the other. The color is drawn from Jippenese veneration for the color, and formally represents both the compassion of Christ the King and mourning his torture and crucifixion. In addition is commonly is said to represent the eternal nature of his sacrifice and grace, as a color showing the inability to wash away the blood of Christ that marks each human soul.

And of course, in place of prominence on the hoist is the Xianese Cross in gold. This banner pays no heed to heraldic traditions of the Occident, but instead inspired an entirely new Oriental Christian heraldic tradition, upon which I shall elaborate..."

- A Modern Treatise on the Numerology, Symbology, Heraldry, Astrology, and Other Related Subjects of the Oriental Marches by Bishop Yu Andrew Lianfeng
EDIT: @Slartibartfast I hope my use of pink is OK! I used a guide for color-blind friendly palettes and that exact shade of pink was taken from there, as was the gold and the green. I hope that passes!
 
Last edited:
Top