As of now: 4,5,5,7. Roughly 2/3 of the regular vote number (c30).
Weekly Flag Challenge: Discussion & Entries
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Thank you to all who voted, regardless of whom you voted for. I believe the convention when there's a tie is for the winners to agree who should choose the next theme. I will have little or no internet access during the next 4-5 days, so I am happy to hand it straight over to @Citizen Keynes - congratulations!
Flag of the Stateless.
Basically this is a flag to represent people who lack citizenship of any sort, and would be used as an international symbol. The flag bears a stylized
symbol, which in math means "does not belong to", to signify the lack of citizenship, through a globaly understood language. IDK if a flag for this purpose already exists, so if it does consider it a redesign.
Basically this is a flag to represent people who lack citizenship of any sort, and would be used as an international symbol. The flag bears a stylized
Flag of The Tsuchi Peoples
Context: In this ATL, a vast percentage of Japan's cultural identity after the fall of the Han dynasty is Chinese, much like how Britain "turned" German when the Anglo-Saxons emigrated there and slowly kickstarted the birth of modern English from mixing with indigenous Celtic peoples and from assimilating other foreign invaders. Today, modern Japan's language and culture is Sino-Japanese with some remnants of the native Japonic peoples and language spread around in central mainland Japan.
The Tsuchi peoples are an indiginous people who live in rural areas of mainland Riben.[1] Their name comes from part of the chinese word Tuzhu (Indiginous) transliterated into their own language, as they have adopted the Chinese alphabet to write and read it with.[2]
Tsuchi also happens to be their word for soil. This gives another interpretation of their name: they live few and between in the countryside of what was one their home. Therefore, they are people of their own soil.
The Tsuchi are said to be the original inhabitants of the whole archipelago, but the only historical evidence of this that we can go with comes from very early on before the classical period.
Apart from the alphabet, Tsuchi language and culture is completely different to modern Ribenese, being somewhat detached from the sinophonic languages that provided the base for the latter. Sadly, only a few thousand or less are alive today that speak Tsuchi or ethnically identify as such (compared to the millions upon millions of Ribenese speakers in Riben alone) and the speakers that are alive mostly consist of elders and centurians with no next of kin to pass this unique language on to. Thankfully, some preservation movements do exist nowadays, emphasising vast documentation of Tsuchi words and grammar as well as cultural artifacts.
The offical flag of the Tsuchi , first proposed early on in the 20th century by Tsuchi artists living in Zhangye,[3] Consists of a field of red representing China, the homeplace of their ancestors, defaced with two rings of gold and white in the center. The gold ring represents Riben while the white ring represents the original Japonic tongue of the Tsuchi. The fact that so much of the flag has Chinese/Ribenese symbolism in the first place could be intrepreted as commentary on the isolation of what is left of the Tsuchi.
[1] Lit. "Japan" translated into Chinese.
[2] Similar to the Kanji alphabet in OTL.
[3] Kanji for Nagano (city in Japan) translated into Chinese.
Context: In this ATL, a vast percentage of Japan's cultural identity after the fall of the Han dynasty is Chinese, much like how Britain "turned" German when the Anglo-Saxons emigrated there and slowly kickstarted the birth of modern English from mixing with indigenous Celtic peoples and from assimilating other foreign invaders. Today, modern Japan's language and culture is Sino-Japanese with some remnants of the native Japonic peoples and language spread around in central mainland Japan.
The Tsuchi peoples are an indiginous people who live in rural areas of mainland Riben.[1] Their name comes from part of the chinese word Tuzhu (Indiginous) transliterated into their own language, as they have adopted the Chinese alphabet to write and read it with.[2]
Tsuchi also happens to be their word for soil. This gives another interpretation of their name: they live few and between in the countryside of what was one their home. Therefore, they are people of their own soil.
The Tsuchi are said to be the original inhabitants of the whole archipelago, but the only historical evidence of this that we can go with comes from very early on before the classical period.
Apart from the alphabet, Tsuchi language and culture is completely different to modern Ribenese, being somewhat detached from the sinophonic languages that provided the base for the latter. Sadly, only a few thousand or less are alive today that speak Tsuchi or ethnically identify as such (compared to the millions upon millions of Ribenese speakers in Riben alone) and the speakers that are alive mostly consist of elders and centurians with no next of kin to pass this unique language on to. Thankfully, some preservation movements do exist nowadays, emphasising vast documentation of Tsuchi words and grammar as well as cultural artifacts.
The offical flag of the Tsuchi , first proposed early on in the 20th century by Tsuchi artists living in Zhangye,[3] Consists of a field of red representing China, the homeplace of their ancestors, defaced with two rings of gold and white in the center. The gold ring represents Riben while the white ring represents the original Japonic tongue of the Tsuchi. The fact that so much of the flag has Chinese/Ribenese symbolism in the first place could be intrepreted as commentary on the isolation of what is left of the Tsuchi.
[1] Lit. "Japan" translated into Chinese.
[2] Similar to the Kanji alphabet in OTL.
[3] Kanji for Nagano (city in Japan) translated into Chinese.
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(changed slightly after viewing FlyingParafin's!)
The Shachlelou
The Shachlelou, roughly the Bereft or Forsaken Ones, are an ethnoreligious group in western Aegyptos. They are predominantly endogamous and conversion to their faith does not bring full inclusion into the tribe as inclusion is only via maternal lineage. However converts, known as Accepted, are able to marry and sire full Shachlelou children. Full Shachlelou are tattooed on their foreheads when the come of age with the symbol of the Divine Eye or Sight of God.
The Shachlelou are Abrahamistic and believe themselves to be descendant of God's Chosen People who have been physically abandoned by God until proven worthy under Their Sight. A study of their known beliefs - several cannot be revealed to non Shachlelou - show a link or similarity to Cnaite and other PreSalvationist Mesopotamian faiths such as specific food laws and a sabbath.
The flag representing the Shachlelou features the Eye in red & black on a field of gold.
The Shachlelou
The Shachlelou, roughly the Bereft or Forsaken Ones, are an ethnoreligious group in western Aegyptos. They are predominantly endogamous and conversion to their faith does not bring full inclusion into the tribe as inclusion is only via maternal lineage. However converts, known as Accepted, are able to marry and sire full Shachlelou children. Full Shachlelou are tattooed on their foreheads when the come of age with the symbol of the Divine Eye or Sight of God.
The Shachlelou are Abrahamistic and believe themselves to be descendant of God's Chosen People who have been physically abandoned by God until proven worthy under Their Sight. A study of their known beliefs - several cannot be revealed to non Shachlelou - show a link or similarity to Cnaite and other PreSalvationist Mesopotamian faiths such as specific food laws and a sabbath.
The flag representing the Shachlelou features the Eye in red & black on a field of gold.
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I feel like the black circle - the pupil - is slightly offset to the right. Is that intentional?
Hope this is allowed, though obviously the two symbols are not my own creation:
The Flag of the Irish-Israelite Community
This flag, is the flag of the Jewish community of the Irish-Israelites in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. With the successes of the British Israelite movement during the Restoration and their later successes under Benjamin Disraeli meant that Ireland became home to the majority of the world's Jews thanks to the somewhat demeaning support of the British Israelites who desired both to have a loyal populace on Ireland and to hopefully eventually convert their elder brothers of the faith to the true Anglican way. While the supposed basis for the British Israelite position has long been scientifically shown to be false, the new joint community thanks to centuries of shared history, led to the Neo-British-Israelite movement across both islands. The Irish part of this movement, made up of both Anglicans, Anglican Judaizers and various Jewish denominations decided upon a symbol that would be both nationalistic and symbolic of the new joint identity of Ireland within the United Kingdom. The Red Hand of Ulster reaching up to the Star of David symbolises both the Irish destiny to grasp at being the New Israel it eventually became and also as a symbol of unity between the various peoples united on the Emerald Isle; the Anglo-Irish, the Ulster Scots, the various Jews and the Gaelic Irish. The blue stripes represent the national colours of Israel as they come from the tefillin and represent the Nation of Israel as it was in exile, but now in its new home of the Emerald Isle.
While the flag originally was used by various peoples as part of the Neo-British-Israelites, most of the other groups have drifted to new symbols of national expression within the United Kingdom, the current population of Jews (around 10 million) took this flag as their own both to show their unique identity and to prevent anyone from saying that they were "Not True Irish" as the saying goes.
(So basically, the weird British Israelites go mainstream and invite a bunch of Jews from across Europe during the Restoration. This means greater integration and also means that the diversification of crops thanks to different Jewish diets that were brought over and more active government intervention mean that Ireland doesn't suffer that much from the famine. Though the famine does still result in some migration though. Based on rough population estimates, Ireland has around 24 million people. So it's about 42% Jewish (not intentional), with it having around 85% of the Worlds Jews. The other 15% of Jews are 10% across Eastern Europe as Hasidim and 5% across the New World and Australia.)
My first attempt at these weekly challenges, not the greatest design but I thought the symbolism looked cool and it came to me as I was doing A Level Judaism revision this morning and decided "what the heck".
The Flag of the Irish-Israelite Community
This flag, is the flag of the Jewish community of the Irish-Israelites in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. With the successes of the British Israelite movement during the Restoration and their later successes under Benjamin Disraeli meant that Ireland became home to the majority of the world's Jews thanks to the somewhat demeaning support of the British Israelites who desired both to have a loyal populace on Ireland and to hopefully eventually convert their elder brothers of the faith to the true Anglican way. While the supposed basis for the British Israelite position has long been scientifically shown to be false, the new joint community thanks to centuries of shared history, led to the Neo-British-Israelite movement across both islands. The Irish part of this movement, made up of both Anglicans, Anglican Judaizers and various Jewish denominations decided upon a symbol that would be both nationalistic and symbolic of the new joint identity of Ireland within the United Kingdom. The Red Hand of Ulster reaching up to the Star of David symbolises both the Irish destiny to grasp at being the New Israel it eventually became and also as a symbol of unity between the various peoples united on the Emerald Isle; the Anglo-Irish, the Ulster Scots, the various Jews and the Gaelic Irish. The blue stripes represent the national colours of Israel as they come from the tefillin and represent the Nation of Israel as it was in exile, but now in its new home of the Emerald Isle.
While the flag originally was used by various peoples as part of the Neo-British-Israelites, most of the other groups have drifted to new symbols of national expression within the United Kingdom, the current population of Jews (around 10 million) took this flag as their own both to show their unique identity and to prevent anyone from saying that they were "Not True Irish" as the saying goes.
(So basically, the weird British Israelites go mainstream and invite a bunch of Jews from across Europe during the Restoration. This means greater integration and also means that the diversification of crops thanks to different Jewish diets that were brought over and more active government intervention mean that Ireland doesn't suffer that much from the famine. Though the famine does still result in some migration though. Based on rough population estimates, Ireland has around 24 million people. So it's about 42% Jewish (not intentional), with it having around 85% of the Worlds Jews. The other 15% of Jews are 10% across Eastern Europe as Hasidim and 5% across the New World and Australia.)
My first attempt at these weekly challenges, not the greatest design but I thought the symbolism looked cool and it came to me as I was doing A Level Judaism revision this morning and decided "what the heck".
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Flag of the Daoine Sidhe
Scottish and Irish mythology told stories of the Daoine Sidhe, a terrible and beautiful race which fought a war against mankind in the dim and distant past. Defeated by weapons of cold iron, they were banished to another realm, existing parallel to our own and accessible via fairy mounds, fairy rings and other portals such as particular trees, lochs or woods.
No-one would have believed, in the last years of the 21st century, that the discovery of wormholes to parallel universes would show that the legends of the Sidhe were true. Over the next decades, contact between humans and Sidhe led to trade which led to settlements in both 'worlds'.
One thing about Sidhe culture which surprised human diplomats was that all Sidhe, everywhere on their own version of Earth (called Dhuachanoch, believed to be related to Gaelic Dùthaich na nÓg meaning Land of Youth), used a variant of a single flag, showing a spiral and line. Only the colours vary, dependent on location and the relationship with the others in that location. The flag shown here is the one flown at all Sidhe settlements amongst humans. According to Sidhe diplomats, the yellow represents the sun whilst the green represents their close relationship with the land. The red is said to represent time and space, but some (humans) have speculated that it actually represents the blood shed in the war millenia ago and that the Sidhe are just biding their time, waiting for humans to let their guard down. Only time will tell...
I hope I'm in time for the contest. If not, never mind, it was fun...
Scottish and Irish mythology told stories of the Daoine Sidhe, a terrible and beautiful race which fought a war against mankind in the dim and distant past. Defeated by weapons of cold iron, they were banished to another realm, existing parallel to our own and accessible via fairy mounds, fairy rings and other portals such as particular trees, lochs or woods.
No-one would have believed, in the last years of the 21st century, that the discovery of wormholes to parallel universes would show that the legends of the Sidhe were true. Over the next decades, contact between humans and Sidhe led to trade which led to settlements in both 'worlds'.
One thing about Sidhe culture which surprised human diplomats was that all Sidhe, everywhere on their own version of Earth (called Dhuachanoch, believed to be related to Gaelic Dùthaich na nÓg meaning Land of Youth), used a variant of a single flag, showing a spiral and line. Only the colours vary, dependent on location and the relationship with the others in that location. The flag shown here is the one flown at all Sidhe settlements amongst humans. According to Sidhe diplomats, the yellow represents the sun whilst the green represents their close relationship with the land. The red is said to represent time and space, but some (humans) have speculated that it actually represents the blood shed in the war millenia ago and that the Sidhe are just biding their time, waiting for humans to let their guard down. Only time will tell...
I hope I'm in time for the contest. If not, never mind, it was fun...
Depending on timezone, you're still in the 5th of June deadline.
For me personally it's within by about 2 hours.
A well-deserved win - imo this flag best captured the spirit of the contest as well as being a good flag.
That's why I didn't enter this time. Their flag went up and I knew it would beat any idea I had this time.