Weaker Ottoman Empire post 1500?

Leo Caesius

Banned
He was being hyperbolic.
Indeed. He simply snapped after being forced to repeat himself too many times. We all have our hot-button issues (Ward's hot-button issue, for example, is flag desecration, and mine is people talking trash about academia and academics, which happens here with a surprising frequency for a forum ostensibly dedicated to discussion of a rather fringe area of historical inquiry) and we've all said things in anger that we don't necessarily mean or intend to be taken literally (even though this is obviously a problem when the medium of communication is solely text, and many of the forum members are gifted with some sort of high-functioning autism). Anyone who knows AHP personally would know that he isn't the ogre that people here often make him out to be. He certainly is under no illusion that he's the only authority here on this subject:

I'm certainly not the only person who knows a lot about the Ottoman Empire, even on this site.
 

Ian the Admin

Administrator
Donor
Where did you get your PhD in Ottoman History from .:rolleyes:
And maybe a lot more people would actually listen to your statements if you stop insulting them . Like you did in this statement " I know 100 times more about the Ottoman Empire than anyone else, nobody ever has anything to contribute except bigoted nationalist bullshit, "
At one time I was interested in Ottoman History But reading what you have written on it for almost 6 Years , You have turned me off from its history and I no longer want anything to do with it .
I wounder how many other members of the Board you have turned off from Ottoman History in the last 8 years .

And next time you post that slavery was a good thing please post your references . And Please do not use sources from the people forcing the people into slavery . That would be like myself using CSA sources That keeping Black's as Slaves was just fine with the average Black Slave .

Oh great, flamebait. From Ward, what a shock. I'll let you off with a warning this time, namely, don't make ridiculous and insulting accusations.
 

Ian the Admin

Administrator
Donor
And I tried my best to have an adult discussion with you, but you are impervious to actual discussion with your reflexive anti-Ottoman nonsense. You have totally failed to respond logically to anything that I've said, after I've taken the time to explain it to you, and just spout this stupid and unsupported, "Duh, they was slaves!" line. You're either too stupid to understand what a slave is, or just plain unwilling to accept that anything about the Ottomans could possibly stray beyond pathetic Victorian stereotypes. Back to the ignore list with a useless poster. Get a clue.

If you can't respond to someone in a civil way, how about putting them on your ignore list without the insulting rearward snipes?
 

Ian the Admin

Administrator
Donor
I noticed from your name that your obviously or a greek or pro-greek. Maybe to rub some salt in that wound of yours: Alot of Greeks are Muslim, thats why we Turks have so much Greek blood in us. We are just Greeks mixed with Turks and chose Islam.

This board isn't the place for puerile nationalist insults.
 

Susano

Banned
If you can't respond to someone in a civil way, how about putting them on your ignore list without the insulting rearward snipes?

Hah, do you think Abduls ignore list coul really take the strain of a 200th or so user on it? It seems to me that telling Abdul to use the ignore list is the proverbial carrying owls to Athens... :p
 

Susano

Banned
I thought it was 'taking coals to Newcastle". What is this about owls?

Err, I dunno if it even is a proverb in English :p but IIRC it derives from the fact that, as the symbol of Athens is the owl Athenian coins always have shown owls on them, so carrying even more owls to that is as superfluous as telling Abdul to use the ignore list :p
 
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