and they proved it again and again
Are you for real? These guys spent the French Revolution and Napoleonic Wars being slapped by anyone who looked at them.
and they proved it again and again
umm... were talking about prussia here;
no matter what you think they were some stone cold hard ass mother fuckin killing machines.
and they proved it again and again
Are you for real? These guys spent the French Revolution and Napoleonic Wars being slapped by anyone who looked at them.
These the same guys who needed Tsar Peter III to save them from Frederick's war, got slapped around by Napoleon, and whose system emulated by united Germany led Germany to two epic failures in 20th Century warfare?![]()
Does that make the OTL Northeastern and Great Lakes states it's ATL European Russia? I'm down with that.![]()
Alright. I'm first & foremost the banner-bearer of Prussia here. I worship Saint Bismarck and pray at the altar of Frederick the Great. And I think this is going too far.umm... were talking about prussia here;
no matter what you think they were some stone cold hard ass mother fuckin killing machines.
and they proved it again and again
Are you for real? These guys spent the French Revolution and Napoleonic Wars being slapped by anyone who looked at them.
I hate agreeing with this. Where's my whiskey...Indeed. Jena and Auerstadt are master curbstomp battles........![]()
Canada is very much a great power. It's the second most powerful state on either American continent. .
Canada isn't a great power. It's not. It's a power, and it is modern, but no....This has not. Canada is very much a great power. It's the second most powerful state on either American continent. The problem is that its southern neighbor is the United fucking States. It never has to really deal with a problem because of that, and in conflicts of interest between the two respective states, Canada has always held firm her stance and alot of times wins.
Machines yes, but the Army of Frederick the Great was actually rather subpar when it came to being stone cold and hardassed (being soldiers motherfucking was kinda implied, along with maiden fucking). It was noted that while they were remarkable in terms of firing speed and formation fighting when it came to the bayonet Prussian infantry had no taste for cold steel and took the worst of those exchanges.umm... were talking about prussia here;
no matter what you think they were some stone cold hard ass mother fuckin killing machines.
no matter what you think they were some stone cold hard ass mother fuckin killing machines.
This here. You did, however, forget one aspect. Prussian artillery tended to be superior during Frederick's time, if only because he was taking lessons straight from Gustav. But yes, the Prussian soldier had no taste for close combat, which is why, if you look, Frederick would only engage if he could make sure most of the enemy would be dead before they reached Prussian lines.Machines yes, but the Army of Frederick the Great was actually rather subpar when it came to being stone cold and hardassed (being soldiers motherfucking was kinda implied, along with maiden fucking). It was noted that while they were remarkable in terms of firing speed and formation fighting when it came to the bayonet Prussian infantry had no taste for cold steel and took the worst of those exchanges.
Also pay attention to everything else that was said above.
Nigeria has no infrastructure.Size + population + resources? In that instance Nigeria should be a super power: 1 million sq km, 170 million people (17% of the continents GDP), etc. Resources: thet nearly have one of each
...But I am not claiming Nigeria to be up there.
There must be more to the definition of "great power". Maybe if we define that first?
I shall be putting my thinking cap on, which gives me a headache of course.
Any other having a go at a definition?
Ivan
Im not really sure Nigeria counts on the size front which was what was really up for debate earlier. Its impressively populated yes, but its not exactly 'huge' in terms of land area.Size + population + resources? In that instance Nigeria should be a super power: 1 million sq km, 170 million people (17% of the continents GDP), etc. Resources: thet nearly have one of each
...But I am not claiming Nigeria to be up there.
There must be more to the definition of "great power". Maybe if we define that first?
I shall be putting my thinking cap on, which gives me a headache of course.
Any other having a go at a definition?
Ivan
You forgot 1905.Yes, it was. Germany tends to be counted a military great power despite not winning any wars outside of the continent of Africa since 1870, Russia gets counted as one despite losing only three modern wars: 1914 and 1920, and 1979. Having economic problems or stagnation certainly doesn't disqualify states, if that were so Britain ceased to be a Great Power around the period of Relative Decline.
Size + population + resources? In that instance Nigeria should be a super power: 1 million sq km, 170 million people (17% of the continents GDP), etc. Resources: thet nearly have one of each
...But I am not claiming Nigeria to be up there.
There must be more to the definition of "great power". Maybe if we define that first?
I shall be putting my thinking cap on, which gives me a headache of course.
Any other having a go at a definition?
Ivan
Yes. Any state covering the areas Russia did, with a suitable population, is destined for super-powerdom. Stalin sped the process up.