Perhaps in exchange for some NATO basing privileges Turkey asks the US to rebuild the Sultan Yavuz like the USS Boston.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Boston_(CA-69)
Warships in need of an ATL story
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Boston_(CA-69)
HMS Prince of Wales dodges all 8 Torpedoes and so does not get crippled by the Prop hit.
As a result her heavy AAA guns are still working and she is able to fend off the subsequent attacks and force Z survives to fight another day
Pffft like he is ever going to finish it.....
I have another mad Idea that I have been toying with which I have called 'The World Wonders'
In late 1944 A mixed Battleship squadron - the French Battleship Richelieu (completed in a US Yard), The Roma (Free Italian Royal Navy), and the King Edward the VIII (2nd unit of the KGV class) have formed a scratch 'Fast battleship force' in the Pacific theatre - on their way to support the landing force (after being left behind by Halsey) while maintaining Operational Silence they hear the "Where the fuck are you" radio message from Nimitz to Halsey regarding Taffy 3s imminent destruction at the hands of Kurita
"TURKEY TROTS TO WATER GG FROM CINCPAC ACTION COM THIRD FLEET INFO COMINCH CTF SEVENTY-SEVEN X WHERE IS RPT WHERE IS TASK FORCE THIRTY FOUR RR THE WORLD WONDERS"
The 3 BBs turn up and have a kickup with Kuritas force saving Taffy 3 in the process.
I was going to engineer a situation where all 3 ships had at some point engaged each other in battle before finding themselves in an ad hoc battle group on the other side of the world about to save the day......
As a result her heavy AAA guns are still working and she is able to fend off the subsequent attacks and force Z survives to fight another day
Pffft like he is ever going to finish it.....
I have another mad Idea that I have been toying with which I have called 'The World Wonders'
In late 1944 A mixed Battleship squadron - the French Battleship Richelieu (completed in a US Yard), The Roma (Free Italian Royal Navy), and the King Edward the VIII (2nd unit of the KGV class) have formed a scratch 'Fast battleship force' in the Pacific theatre - on their way to support the landing force (after being left behind by Halsey) while maintaining Operational Silence they hear the "Where the fuck are you" radio message from Nimitz to Halsey regarding Taffy 3s imminent destruction at the hands of Kurita
"TURKEY TROTS TO WATER GG FROM CINCPAC ACTION COM THIRD FLEET INFO COMINCH CTF SEVENTY-SEVEN X WHERE IS RPT WHERE IS TASK FORCE THIRTY FOUR RR THE WORLD WONDERS"
The 3 BBs turn up and have a kickup with Kuritas force saving Taffy 3 in the process.
I was going to engineer a situation where all 3 ships had at some point engaged each other in battle before finding themselves in an ad hoc battle group on the other side of the world about to save the day......
SsgtC
Banned
And to Richelieu and Roma, we bid adieu. Seriously though, I would hate to see either of those ships on the receiving end of one of Yamato's 18" shells
I am fully confident that Kurita could snatch defeat from the jaws of victory by bottling it
SsgtC
Banned
If you write this, perhaps you could swap out Jean Bart for Richelieu and add Massachusetts to the fleet? Especially as Big Mamie and JB slugged it out in the Atlantic earlier in the war...I am fully confident that Kurita could snatch defeat from the jaws of victory by bottling it
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Yes of course, like its only a frigate, I mean it is 9000t v 2000t of USS Constitution why would anybody notice any difference.....
RM Leonardo da Vinci raised and reconstructed as an aircraft carrier. Rebuilt similar to later Cavour class reconstruction, 27knots and 32-40 aircraft.
MatthewB
Banned
ORP Orzeł, after fighting for Poland, escaping internment in Estonia, and reaching Britain, she deserves to last out the war.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORP_Orzeł_(1938)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORP_Orzeł_(1938)
Driftless
Donor
Have the HNoMS Norge and Eidsvold gets some hits of their own in during the initial encounter with the German destroyers at Narvik. Historically, the Eidsvold was sunk immediately following a parley, by torpedos. The Norge fired its weapons, but with poor visibility, optical sights, and an unpractised gunnery crew no hits were obtained before it too was sunk (less than a minute after being hit).
IF the Norwegian ships 8.26"/21cm shells were to hit one or even more of the German destroyers, that would change the complexion of the invasion force landing at Narvik and the associated naval battles.
IF the Norwegian ships 8.26"/21cm shells were to hit one or even more of the German destroyers, that would change the complexion of the invasion force landing at Narvik and the associated naval battles.
The Italians are able to complete all 4 Francesco Caracciolo class fast battleships towards the end of World War One.
The POD would be false reports of the Austro-Hungarians making rapid progress building their Erstaz Monarch class. This leads to the British Government providing the Italians with the steel required to complete the ships or the money to buy steel from the USA.
The TTL WNT would allow Italy to keep the 2 Andrea Dorias and the 4 Caracciolo class, which would have come to about 171,000 metric tons.
IOTL they were allowed to keep 10 ships with an aggregate displacement of 182,800 metric tons (Andrea Doria, Caio Duilio, Conte Di Cavour, Giulio Cesare, Leonardo Da Vinci, Dante Alighieri, Roma, Napoli, Vittorio Emanuele and Regina Elena).
Italy would still have a quota of 175,000 tons, which was enough for five ships of 35,000 tons. However, Italy wasn't allowed to build 70,000 tons of new battleships before the treaty expired because she had the Caracciolo class. Therefore Italy won't be able to lay down Littorio and Vittorio Vento in 1934.
The POD would be false reports of the Austro-Hungarians making rapid progress building their Erstaz Monarch class. This leads to the British Government providing the Italians with the steel required to complete the ships or the money to buy steel from the USA.
The TTL WNT would allow Italy to keep the 2 Andrea Dorias and the 4 Caracciolo class, which would have come to about 171,000 metric tons.
IOTL they were allowed to keep 10 ships with an aggregate displacement of 182,800 metric tons (Andrea Doria, Caio Duilio, Conte Di Cavour, Giulio Cesare, Leonardo Da Vinci, Dante Alighieri, Roma, Napoli, Vittorio Emanuele and Regina Elena).
Italy would still have a quota of 175,000 tons, which was enough for five ships of 35,000 tons. However, Italy wasn't allowed to build 70,000 tons of new battleships before the treaty expired because she had the Caracciolo class. Therefore Italy won't be able to lay down Littorio and Vittorio Vento in 1934.
One of the Tennessee class heavy cruisers (I'm rather fond of Charlotte personally) being rebuilt as projected in 1926 thanks to the odd stipulations in the treaty making it practical (was considered OTL but new cruisers being available made it pointless). The three remaining ships end up continuing their careers up until WW2, where one of them manages to get into a shootout with the Deutschland class ship and somehow manages to come out on top.
Throw in some "Europeans don't know how to fight in the Pacific" politics for giggles.