War of 1812 - American defeat?

I thought some of the British terms were rather much, given the situation at the time and probably at least as much bargaining conditions. Then I read the US terms!:eek:

Yeah, the White House was no longer connected to reality, it seems. :p

The British terms I laid out actually seem reasonable, if we were to consider the War taking a course far more favorable to them, especially given it did not involve ejecting American settlers from the Northwest Territory, but limiting their expansion. The Detroit area, what amounts to Downtown Chicago, a region around Vincennes, and the grand majority of Ohio were to remain in American hands. The remainder was essentially to become a giant Native American Reservation.

In regards to the Fishing Rights, I didn't describe it in great detail in the notes I took down, didn't seem important; wish I did. :eek:
 
At least the British ideal terms could be achieved to a point if the British were willing to commit to more fighting. The US terms are just fantasy.
 
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