Similar to this thread, what would the war aims of a "Nazi" China be? Fascist Chinas a scenario I see infrequently among quick alternate history scenarios, but these tend to be less than successful. With regard to planting the Chinese flag, 20th century China has lost a lot of land compared to its predecessors, but these "Nazis" being what they are would they extend this claim to vaguely Sinicized cultures as well?
War Aims of a "Nazi" China
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Regain Korea back as its protectorate or vassal state from Imperial Japan.
Regain Manchuria from Imperial Japan.
Regain the lost Han lands in Siberia now under the communistic regime of Stalin.
Regain Formosa / Taiwan and Hainan Island from Imperial Japan.
Reinsert influence and hegemony in IndoChina, especially Vietnam ...
Tell Portugal in Macao and Great Britain in Hong Kong... hello ...
99 years .... hmmmmm .... Let's RE-re-negotiate ... or not.
Regain Manchuria from Imperial Japan.
Regain the lost Han lands in Siberia now under the communistic regime of Stalin.
Regain Formosa / Taiwan and Hainan Island from Imperial Japan.
Reinsert influence and hegemony in IndoChina, especially Vietnam ...
Tell Portugal in Macao and Great Britain in Hong Kong... hello ...
99 years .... hmmmmm .... Let's RE-re-negotiate ... or not.
Hmm... odd that you would ask this, considering that in my TL, the Unitary Peoples Socialist Republic of China exists as of 1960. The main goals of the UPSRC is to reunite all of China under one government, this is mostly in reference to the Xinjiang warlord government supported by the Soviets, the Manchurian based PRC, the British supported Tibet and the Soviet occupied Taiwan.
They also support the elevation of China to a major power status, not propped up by any other nation. Jun Strasser-Ruan is accomplishing this as of present by forging an alliance with Nazi France, Nazi leaning Germany and, ironically, the Soviets.
They also support the elevation of China to a major power status, not propped up by any other nation. Jun Strasser-Ruan is accomplishing this as of present by forging an alliance with Nazi France, Nazi leaning Germany and, ironically, the Soviets.
Hm, but to they envision expansion into lands that are most certainly not Chinese? Their goal is more reunification than aggressive, insane expansion.
To be fair, they are not Nazi in the classic sense, as in my TL, Strasserism is the ideology of Nazism. So no, they do not advocate the expansion into non-Chinese lands, but they do advocate the vassalization of territories they see as inherently Chinese by right. So in this TL, Burma, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos, Mongolia, Korea and Japan.
There's a timeline like this that I can't remember the name of. It involved Chiang Kai Shek going to Germany in the 1900s and meeting Hitler. They end up serving in the same unit during World War 1. They kept in contact with eachother after that. They both rose to power and now their countries are allied. I wish whoever made it would have kept on updating it.
The currently timeline I'm working on has a pro-Axis China, but I definitely wouldn't call it a Nazi China. Haven't got it entering the war yet, but I have a fair idea what to do...
But I bet they wouldn't want a free India TOO powerfull... Could make troubles in the places where their influences would touch, like Indochina...
For Chinese aims to be "Nazis", it's got to be pretty extravagant. Here's what I'd go with:
- Getting HK, Macao, and Taiwan back. They are populated by Chinese, they should be ours!
- Getting the old Qing borders back. Self-explanatory; what are those damned Russkies doing all the way over here? Go back to whence you came!
- Conquering Korea. Sure Korea was never actually ruled by China, but now it will be.
- Taking Vietnam. See Korea. Also if it's ruled by France, that's a major no-no.
- Thailand: Maybe we can co-opt them. If not, our army will.
- Malaysia/Singapore: Another Western colony? It'll be ours soon.
- Pacifying Japan: No point in ruling over those dwarfs, but they have to recognize our power. Let's go and bomb them into the stone age.
- Philippines: Maybe, if we've got time and forces to spare.
- Indonesia: Ditto Philippines.
- Tibet: Duh, almost forgot.
- Getting HK, Macao, and Taiwan back. They are populated by Chinese, they should be ours!
- Getting the old Qing borders back. Self-explanatory; what are those damned Russkies doing all the way over here? Go back to whence you came!
- Conquering Korea. Sure Korea was never actually ruled by China, but now it will be.
- Taking Vietnam. See Korea. Also if it's ruled by France, that's a major no-no.
- Thailand: Maybe we can co-opt them. If not, our army will.
- Malaysia/Singapore: Another Western colony? It'll be ours soon.
- Pacifying Japan: No point in ruling over those dwarfs, but they have to recognize our power. Let's go and bomb them into the stone age.
- Philippines: Maybe, if we've got time and forces to spare.
- Indonesia: Ditto Philippines.
- Tibet: Duh, almost forgot.
I don't see a 'Nazi China' really laying claim to Central Asia, but they will claim the areas in dispute with India, as well as Macao, Hong Kong, Manchuria, Mongolia, Sinkiang, Tibet, Tannu-Tuva, and, I suspect the areas which had constituted the "Far Eastern Republic" in our timeline. Korea gets either annexed or puppetized.
*Ahem* To inject a bit of realism, the war-aims of ''Nazi China'' (ignoring the fact it pretty much was fascist OTL under the KMT) would consist of one thing only. Not to get horribly & humiliatingly beaten.
All the stuff about retaking land from anyone (aside from maybe Tibet) would just be propaganda guff.
All the stuff about retaking land from anyone (aside from maybe Tibet) would just be propaganda guff.