Wank the vikings as much as possible

A more devastating war between the Franks and Umayyad Caliphate leaves a power vacuum in Northern/Western Europe that the Norse end up filling?
 
I mean considering that without them we would not have England and Russia as we know, aren't they wanked enough already? I mean seafarers from lands that were basically peripheries to civilization as we knew it, manage to develop ships capable of traveling the harsh seas.

They manage to become a powerful if divided force in the British Isles, establishing what would be modern day York and Dublin. In Continental Europe, they make gains in Normandy, the Netherlands, and Russia. From there their frenchified descendants manage to conquer and rule England, as well as establish the Kingdom Of Sicily, while In Russia they form a dynasty manages that manages to last from 860 to 1598.
 

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I mean considering that without them we would not have England and Russia as we know, aren't they wanked enough already? I mean seafarers from lands that were basically peripheries to civilization as we knew it, manage to develop ships capable of traveling the harsh seas.

They manage to become a powerful if divided force in the British Isles, establishing what would be modern day York and Dublin. In Continental Europe, they make gains in Normandy, the Netherlands, and Russia. From there their frenchified descendants manage to conquer and rule England, as well as establish the Kingdom Of Sicily, while In Russia they form a dynasty manages that manages to last from 860 to 1598.
If the Vikings conquered the entire British Isles, and Rus' never converted to Christianity, then maybe we could those regions taking on the Viking "mantle" and continuing to raid their neighbors.

The Norwegians, Danes, and Normans did continue to raid well after Christianization, and a mixed Norse-Slavic Rus' years after the initial Varangian conquest raided lands even as far as Baku in Azerbaijan and Mazandaran in Iran!

Was Rus' converting to Christianity even inevitable? They weren't Romanized like the western Germanic tribes, for which conversion was inevitable after a point, or the post-Frankish Moravians. Did East Slavs have to convert to Christianity, or could they have remained pagan?
 
I imagine a really big wank would be a viking somehow forcing his way into the carolingian/holy roman empire's royal family line. Not sure if thats a wank or outright asb

Edit: and i dont mean the roundabout way via normans
 

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I imagine a really big wank would be a viking somehow forcing his way into the carolingian/holy roman empire's royal family line. Not sure if thats a wank or outright asb

Edit: and i dont mean the roundabout way via normans
That might be a screw, as the new Viking dynasty would convert to Christianity quickly and probably oppose the remaining Vikings.
 
If the Vikings conquered the entire British Isles, and Rus' never converted to Christianity, then maybe we could those regions taking on the Viking "mantle" and continuing to raid their neighbors.

The Norwegians, Danes, and Normans did continue to raid well after Christianization, and a mixed Norse-Slavic Rus' years after the initial Varangian conquest raided lands even as far as Baku in Azerbaijan and Mazandaran in Iran!

Was Rus' converting to Christianity even inevitable? They weren't Romanized like the western Germanic tribes, for which conversion was inevitable after a point, or the post-Frankish Moravians. Did East Slavs have to convert to Christianity, or could they have remained pagan?

I don't know if there was really a Viking mantle to take up, aside from the fact Viking was more a term than a people, the Norse tended to assimilate into the areas they ruled, while there was an experimentation with reforming a Slavic faith by Vladimir the Great, but that would Vladimir and his family saw themselves as Slavs. Unless you want something that looks like Ptolemaic Eygpt with Perun-Odin, with a weird Slavic-Norse culture to go along with it?
 

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I don't know if there was really a Viking mantle to take up, aside from the fact Viking was more a term than a people
Well yeah that's what I meant. By "mantle" I meant the role that Vikings played in Europe, not that they were unified.

If the Viking "occupation/profession" dies in the Scandinavian kingdoms, it nonetheless might continue in a Norse Heathen England. Or if a critical mass of Norse raiders remains then maybe Christianization's advance north could be slowed, or mainland European kingdoms could be sufficiently weakened that it remains feasible for Christian Denmark and Norway to continue sending expeditions.

, the Norse tended to assimilate into the areas they ruled, while there was an experimentation with reforming a Slavic faith by Vladimir the Great, but that would Vladimir and his family saw themselves as Slavs. Unless you want something that looks like Ptolemaic Eygpt with Perun-Odin, with a weird Slavic-Norse culture to go along with it?
Well, Varangians were still present in heavy numbers upon the date of Christianization and were assimilated only by the late 11th century. If Kievan Rus never Christianized, and had continued raiding, causing there to be a smooth and gradual transition from employing Varangians as raiders to employing native East Slavs as raiders, then there would be no particular point when one could say it "stopped" being an extension of the Viking raids, instead this hypothetical pagan Rus just evolved over time into a new culture.
 
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