Wank Scandinavia as you can with a 250 B.C. POD

As the title says. How far can they advance their ships and grow the population by themselves? How plausible would it be to establish more contact with the Western and mediterranean civilizations?
 
Pre-Migration Era? Hmm.

You’ll want to expand the definition/sphere of influence of Scandinavia as its OTL territory is not the greatest. A South Germanic-screw could work, where the peoples of Scandza expand into OTL Germany during the Roman era but maintain some cultural unity with their northern brethren. Maybe they ally with Rome or Roman successors against the Germans? Dunno how plausible that would be.

Ideally, “Scandinavia” could include much of Germany, the northern Continental coast, and Britain.
 
Highly unlikely. You will need Greek colonies in the area that will boost tech-culture in the area. Maybe Pytheas of Massalia trip to the area had bigger impact and thus a colonial wave there? You can check my Massalia ATL(check from thread:278 BC. The North expedition and 249 BC. Loukios expedition.) Is pretty close to what you ask.
 
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Pre-Migration Era? Hmm.

You’ll want to expand the definition/sphere of influence of Scandinavia as its OTL territory is not the greatest. A South Germanic-screw could work, where the peoples of Scandza expand into OTL Germany during the Roman era but maintain some cultural unity with their northern brethren. Maybe they ally with Rome or Roman successors against the Germans? Dunno how plausible that would be.

Ideally, “Scandinavia” could include much of Germany, the northern Continental coast, and Britain.


I was thinking more in the sense of making the "proper scandinavian" tribes into somewhat relevant and recognizable kingdoms before christianization or through the romans. At least as 'civilized' as the best off gaulic kingdoms. But i'm not sure if that's possible at all without a "random guys makes a great invention by himself" trope. But invading the germans seems nice too.

Highly unlikely. You will need Greek colonies in the area that will boost tech-culture in the area. Maybe Pytheas of Massalia trip to the area had bigger impact and thus a colonial wave there? You can check my Massalia ATL(check from thread:278 BC. The North expedition.) Is pretty close to what you ask.

I was reading the Rise of the Sacred Segos and didn't really knew it was a redux. Thanks, mate.
 
Whatever you do to them, the great period of cooling in the mid 560s (give or take) where there was three-five years "without summer" (due to volcanic eruptions that gave rise to the migration period) will undo most if not all "of your work". Sadly.
 
Wasn't most of Scandinavia still Uralic at that point in time?

At least everything north of Uppsala, although we aren't sure how much cross-cultural habitation occurred between the Proto-Norse and the various Uralic tribes even as far south as Växjö.
 
At least everything north of Uppsala, although we aren't sure how much cross-cultural habitation occurred between the Proto-Norse and the various Uralic tribes even as far south as Växjö.
It has been claimed that some of the oldest place-names in Scania are Uralic.
 
1658, Sweden takes most of Denmark
1659, Sweden coup de main Denmark, annexes Denmark proper and Norway in the process. Iceland is left alone.
1676, general uprising, Sweden defeats it and transform Denmark into Sweden.
1700, Poland, Saxony and Russia attacks Sweden, Denmark calm.
1710. Sweden have won all war and now controlls the entire Baltic coast, Novogorod a independent nation again under Swedish influence. Danes are forced to move to North America and set up colony for the Swedish empire
1730: Scandinavian empire and UK at war over North America.
1735: France helps Scandinavian empire and England loses everything north of North Carolina. France holds Canada
1745: Novogorod absorbed into Scandinavia. War with Russia. Poland ally Scandinavia
1747: Russia empire is defeated and everything west of Ural is now controlled by Scandinavia or Poland
1755: Scandnavia and Polan at war. Preussia, Austria, France help Scandinavia
1761: Poland divided between Scandinavia, Austria and Preussia
1765: North American colonies and Scandinavia attack UK. UK loses all colonies in North America and the caribian
1770: France is kicked out of North America. French speaking people forced to learn Swedish.
1776: Preussia is defeated and absorbed
1780: Austria is defeated and absorbed
1800: Netherlands is defeated and absorbed
1830: France is defeated and split with Spain.
1900: Scandinavian empire holds of Europe and North America north of Rio grande. Siberia controlled by Scandinavia.
1910: First space flight by Scandinavia
2000: All of Earth is controlled by Scandinavia
2500: All of the milky way is controlled by Scandinavian Earth federation

How is that for a wank?
 
Wasn't most of Scandinavia still Uralic at that point in time?

Southern Scandinavia would have been Indo-European for a while. Corded Ware culture would have been there since 2500 BC at least. Northern Scandinavia would have been proto-Saami, as in before the Siberian migration. They'd be speaking a language isolate as far as we can determine. Not sure when the Finns moved into the Karelia.

I think what you'd primarily need here would be some kind of political evolution, allowing for the formation of larger political entities.
 
* Vinland survives
* Sweden becomes a much stronger colonial power in North America because of Scandanavian foreknowledge of the Americas
* Vinland expands south and west
* North America ends up dominated by Nordic not Anglo culture
* Nordic Council includes Vinland
* Nordic Model in Vinland means stronger North America economically
* Nordic countries dominate world post-World Wars
 
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