Walking Through Dreams: Lands of Red and Gold (preview)

Just a small teaser about what's upcoming for this timeline...

February 1310
Tasman Sea, offshore from Kiama, Australia

Blue sky above, blue water below, in seemingly endless expanse. Dots of white clouds appeared on occasions, but they quickly faded into the distance. Only one double-hulled canoe with rippling sail cut a path through the blue emptiness. So it had gone on, day after day, seemingly without end.

Kawiti of the Tangata [People] would very much have preferred not to be here. The four other men on the canoe were reliable enough travelling companions, as far as such things went. Yet being cramped on even the largest canoe made for too much frustration, and this was far from the largest of canoes. Only a fool would send out a large canoe without first exploring the path with a smaller vessel to find out what land could be discovered, if any.

Of course, only a fool would want to send out exploration canoes at all, as far as he could tell. The arts of long-distance navigation were fading back on Te Ika a Maui [North Island, New Zealand]. That was all to the good, as far as Kawiti was concerned. Why risk death on long sea voyages to find some new fly-speck of an island, when they had already discovered something much greater? Te Ika a Maui was a land a thousand or more times the size of their forefathers’ home on Hawaiki, and further south lay an island even greater in size. Their new lands were vast in expanse, and teemed with life on the earth, in the skies above, and the seas around.

Still, here Kawiti was, on a long voyage like his grandfather had spoken about. He had learned the old skills, and now he had been made to use them. Whether or not he wished it. He would much rather be hunting moa in the endless forests than chasing ghosts in this endless water.

“Remind me why I’m out here,” he said, to the air around him.

His cousin Nene took the statement literally. “Because Rahiri wants us to be out here, and so here we are.”

“If there’s exploring to be done, the Big Man should do it himself,” Kawiti muttered.

“That’s the point to being the Big Man; you get to tell others what to do, instead of doing it yourself,” Nene said.

Since that was manifestly true, Kawiti changed the subject instead. “No matter what Rahiri wants, we can’t keep exploring much further in this wind.”

As any sensible navigator would do, Kawiti had steered his canoe into the wind for this exploration. That would make it safer to run for home if they needed to, rather than risk being becalmed until they died of thirst.

“We have enough water to explore for another sunrise, maybe two,” Nene said. “If-”

He never finished that sentence, since Kawiti pointed to the skies instead. “Gulls!”

That brought exclamations from all of the men on the canoe. A half dozen or so white-and-silver gulls circled in the skies to the south-west. Kawiti took hold of the steering oar and turned the canoe in that direction. Sure enough, when they got closer, they saw that the gulls were just like those which crowded the shores of Te Ika a Maui and flocked like so many winged thieves to the site of any moa kill.

Gulls meant land nearby, of course, as any child knew, yet what kind of land? As the canoe swept south-west, Kawiti looked for the build-up of cloud which was often associated with islands. He saw no low-lying clouds, just the same occasional high white puffs which had been their only company for days. Yet the sky to the west did look different, somehow. It had turned into a kind of blue-gray haze, instead of the usual blue. Strange indeed.

When they went a little further west, Kawiti realised that he could smell something. A striking, tangy odour unlike anything he had ever inhaled. Piercing, somewhat sharp, not entirely unpleasant but most definitely unfamiliar. Land had to be near, but what could produce such as a sharp smell to carry it over the horizon?

Soon enough, he had his answer. The azure-blue expanse of sea was replaced by an endless stretch of brown-green land in the distance. It covered the entire western horizon, as they drew near. Not a small island, then. Something worth visiting, another new land. Surely not was large as Te Ika a Maui, but worth visiting.

Trees grew near to the shore as Kawiti steered the canoe toward an open expanse of sand. The canoe landed easily enough on the beach, as it was designed to do, and the men quickly dragged it up behind the high-water mark. No telling how long they would be here, but they could not risk losing their only way home.

“Another island of forests,” Nene said. “And smell those trees!”

Kawiti could only nod. Those strange white-barked trees were the source of the odour which they had smelt even out of sight of land. They looked tall, but they were more widely-spaced than he would have expected of a forest. The ground between the trees was suspiciously empty, too. A few shrubs grew here and there, with grass elsewhere. Why hadn’t those bushes grown to cover all the ground between the big whitebarks? There was light enough for them to grow, surely.

“We need to find water,” he said. No stream or spring was obvious, but there had to be something. There was always water somewhere. “And somewhere to camp. And then-”

A strange man seemed to step out of the ground, leaving Kawiti to forget his instructions. A man with skin black as night itself, who had somehow concealed himself well enough that neither Kawiti nor anyone else in his crew had noticed him. The man held a spear in his hand, although he pointed it at the ground rather than Kawiti and his fellow Tangata. The black man rattled off a few words in a speech which made no sense whatsoever.

Kawiti held his right hand, face up, to show that it was empty of a weapon, then said, “We mean no harm.” The words would probably mean nothing, but at least his tone should sound peaceful.

The black man flicked his head upward, as if biting at his own earlobe. A gesture of frustration, or something else? No way to know, not in this strange land. The black man wore some sort of woven cloth around his waist which went halfway to his knees, and had a head-dress of gray-brown feathers covering black, curly hair. The black man spoke again, more loudly, in words which sounded slightly different to his previous speech, but just as meaningless.

Softly, Kawiti said, “No-one raise any spears. There’s five of us, and only one of him.”

“Two of them, at least,” Nene said. “I’m sure I saw someone else back there behind the trees.”

The black man looked from one of them to the other, then thumped the butt of his spear on the ground. More black men appeared from behind trees or stood up from behind bushes which by rights were too small for anyone to hide behind. The other strange men came to stand beside their fellow, moving quickly but not running. They all had spears of some kind or another, and the same night-coloured skin, but there the similarities ended. Each of the men was dressed differently. One had a feathered cloak wrapped around him, another wore the hardened leather skin of some animal about his chest in what had to be some kind of armour.

One man, apparently the leader of the black men, had a round shield attached to his left arm. Not from wood, as a few of the Tangata used, but of some kind of strange substance that was yellowish-brown, and which gleamed. It looked harder than any wood, but obviously lighter than stone, from the way the black man held that shield. Belatedly, Kawiti realised that each of the black men’s spears were tipped with heads not of stone, but of the same yellow-brown substance. Those heads did not have the same shine on them, but they still looked strong.

Who were these strange men?
 
This does look promising, with Maori discovering the Illawarra, and the strange (to them) inhabitants thereof.
 
Ooh, looks promising!

This does look promising, with Maori discovering the Illawarra, and the strange (to them) inhabitants thereof.

Glad you like the idea. The Maori exploration of Australia isn't meant to be due to butterflies, by the way. (Of course there will be butterflies now that contact has been established).

I suspect that the early Polynesian seafarers who landed in New Zealand kept exploring for a while, and they're quite likely to have reached Australia. They did reach Norfolk Island and the Kermadecs, although the Polynesian peoples there died out or abandoned those islands later. The Tasman Sea is roughly 2000 km across, and the Polynesians voyaged over much longer distances than that. We know that there was Polynesian contact with somewhere in South America; they gave chickens to the Peruvians, and found sweet potatoes and sent that new crop all the way back across the Pacific.

So if the Polynesians could reach South America, it's quite likely that they reached Australia from New Zealand or Norfolk Island. It's just that they wouldn't have done much when they got there. The early Polynesians didn't go in much for conquering already-inhabited areas, and so there wouldn't be any real legacy of contact. (The later Maori may have gone in for conquest, but by then they'd abandoned that kind of long-range navigation.)

In ATL Australia, well...

This my be a stupid question, but is the substance copper or bronze?

One or the other...

Bronze, I think... :confused:

It's bronze. I don't think that anyone would describe a polished copper shield as yellow-brown, even if they're unfamiliar with it. Polished copper would be described as reddish-brown or pinkish-brown, perhaps, maybe even orange, but not really yellow. (Oxidized copper would be green.)

But still, bronze-age Aborigines. :cool:

Yep, they're in the Bronze Age. Although the good sources of tin are on the wrong side of the Great Dividing Ranges, so there isn't quite as much bronze on the eastern seaboard as there is further inland. Still, there's enough...

I'm really enjoying this!

Glad you like it. I'll get to work more fully on this sometime after DoD is wrapped up.

Stop the teasing dammit. Get on with it! :mad:

;)

Alas, everything must be done in its proper time. I'm doing bits and pieces of research when I need a break from DoD, but there's still a lot to go. I've only recently figured out a working agricultural package and the best mineral locations, for example.
 

mojojojo

Gone Fishin'
Just a small teaser about what's upcoming for this timeline...

February 1310
Tasman Sea, offshore from Kiama, Australia

Blue sky above, blue water below, in seemingly endless expanse. Dots of white clouds appeared on occasions, but they quickly faded into the distance. Only one double-hulled canoe with rippling sail cut a path through the blue emptiness. So it had gone on, day after day, seemingly without end.

Kawiti of the Tangata [People] would very much have preferred not to be here. The four other men on the canoe were reliable enough travelling companions, as far as such things went. Yet being cramped on even the largest canoe made for too much frustration, and this was far from the largest of canoes. Only a fool would send out a large canoe without first exploring the path with a smaller vessel to find out what land could be discovered, if any.

Of course, only a fool would want to send out exploration canoes at all, as far as he could tell. The arts of long-distance navigation were fading back on Te Ika a Maui [North Island, New Zealand]. That was all to the good, as far as Kawiti was concerned. Why risk death on long sea voyages to find some new fly-speck of an island, when they had already discovered something much greater? Te Ika a Maui was a land a thousand or more times the size of their forefathers’ home on Hawaiki, and further south lay an island even greater in size. Their new lands were vast in expanse, and teemed with life on the earth, in the skies above, and the seas around.

Still, here Kawiti was, on a long voyage like his grandfather had spoken about. He had learned the old skills, and now he had been made to use them. Whether or not he wished it. He would much rather be hunting moa in the endless forests than chasing ghosts in this endless water.

“Remind me why I’m out here,” he said, to the air around him.

His cousin Nene took the statement literally. “Because Rahiri wants us to be out here, and so here we are.”

“If there’s exploring to be done, the Big Man should do it himself,” Kawiti muttered.

“That’s the point to being the Big Man; you get to tell others what to do, instead of doing it yourself,” Nene said.

Since that was manifestly true, Kawiti changed the subject instead. “No matter what Rahiri wants, we can’t keep exploring much further in this wind.”

As any sensible navigator would do, Kawiti had steered his canoe into the wind for this exploration. That would make it safer to run for home if they needed to, rather than risk being becalmed until they died of thirst.

“We have enough water to explore for another sunrise, maybe two,” Nene said. “If-”

He never finished that sentence, since Kawiti pointed to the skies instead. “Gulls!”

That brought exclamations from all of the men on the canoe. A half dozen or so white-and-silver gulls circled in the skies to the south-west. Kawiti took hold of the steering oar and turned the canoe in that direction. Sure enough, when they got closer, they saw that the gulls were just like those which crowded the shores of Te Ika a Maui and flocked like so many winged thieves to the site of any moa kill.

Gulls meant land nearby, of course, as any child knew, yet what kind of land? As the canoe swept south-west, Kawiti looked for the build-up of cloud which was often associated with islands. He saw no low-lying clouds, just the same occasional high white puffs which had been their only company for days. Yet the sky to the west did look different, somehow. It had turned into a kind of blue-gray haze, instead of the usual blue. Strange indeed.

When they went a little further west, Kawiti realised that he could smell something. A striking, tangy odour unlike anything he had ever inhaled. Piercing, somewhat sharp, not entirely unpleasant but most definitely unfamiliar. Land had to be near, but what could produce such as a sharp smell to carry it over the horizon?

Soon enough, he had his answer. The azure-blue expanse of sea was replaced by an endless stretch of brown-green land in the distance. It covered the entire western horizon, as they drew near. Not a small island, then. Something worth visiting, another new land. Surely not was large as Te Ika a Maui, but worth visiting.

Trees grew near to the shore as Kawiti steered the canoe toward an open expanse of sand. The canoe landed easily enough on the beach, as it was designed to do, and the men quickly dragged it up behind the high-water mark. No telling how long they would be here, but they could not risk losing their only way home.

“Another island of forests,” Nene said. “And smell those trees!”

Kawiti could only nod. Those strange white-barked trees were the source of the odour which they had smelt even out of sight of land. They looked tall, but they were more widely-spaced than he would have expected of a forest. The ground between the trees was suspiciously empty, too. A few shrubs grew here and there, with grass elsewhere. Why hadn’t those bushes grown to cover all the ground between the big whitebarks? There was light enough for them to grow, surely.

“We need to find water,” he said. No stream or spring was obvious, but there had to be something. There was always water somewhere. “And somewhere to camp. And then-”

A strange man seemed to step out of the ground, leaving Kawiti to forget his instructions. A man with skin black as night itself, who had somehow concealed himself well enough that neither Kawiti nor anyone else in his crew had noticed him. The man held a spear in his hand, although he pointed it at the ground rather than Kawiti and his fellow Tangata. The black man rattled off a few words in a speech which made no sense whatsoever.

Kawiti held his right hand, face up, to show that it was empty of a weapon, then said, “We mean no harm.” The words would probably mean nothing, but at least his tone should sound peaceful.

The black man flicked his head upward, as if biting at his own earlobe. A gesture of frustration, or something else? No way to know, not in this strange land. The black man wore some sort of woven cloth around his waist which went halfway to his knees, and had a head-dress of gray-brown feathers covering black, curly hair. The black man spoke again, more loudly, in words which sounded slightly different to his previous speech, but just as meaningless.

Softly, Kawiti said, “No-one raise any spears. There’s five of us, and only one of him.”

“Two of them, at least,” Nene said. “I’m sure I saw someone else back there behind the trees.”

The black man looked from one of them to the other, then thumped the butt of his spear on the ground. More black men appeared from behind trees or stood up from behind bushes which by rights were too small for anyone to hide behind. The other strange men came to stand beside their fellow, moving quickly but not running. They all had spears of some kind or another, and the same night-coloured skin, but there the similarities ended. Each of the men was dressed differently. One had a feathered cloak wrapped around him, another wore the hardened leather skin of some animal about his chest in what had to be some kind of armour.

One man, apparently the leader of the black men, had a round shield attached to his left arm. Not from wood, as a few of the Tangata used, but of some kind of strange substance that was yellowish-brown, and which gleamed. It looked harder than any wood, but obviously lighter than stone, from the way the black man held that shield. Belatedly, Kawiti realised that each of the black men’s spears were tipped with heads not of stone, but of the same yellow-brown substance. Those heads did not have the same shine on them, but they still looked strong.

Who were these strange men?
That was WAAAAAY COOOL:D

BTW: Will the Australian Natives have any domesticated marsupials at all?
 
The preview is quite teasing, Jared!:)

A teaser is meant to do that. :) Truth in advertising strikes again!

By the way, the main body of this timeline isn't going to be written in the same style as the preview posts. Writing that kind of perspective reminds me too much of DoD. I'm trying to develop a new style for writing Lands of Red and Gold. It'll probably be a kind of omniscient narrative more than anything else.

That was WAAAAAY COOOL:D

Glad you liked it. :)

BTW: Will the Australian Natives have any domesticated marsupials at all?

Not large ones. The large species of Australian marsupials (kangaroos, large wallabies, wombats, koalas) are for various reasons not domesticable. Possibly a couple of smaller marsupial species are domesticable. Quolls, perhaps, as an analogue to domesticated cats, or maybe brushtail possums could be domesticated too.

However, counting the dingo, Australia does have at least three domesticable species, so they will have some animals around. Not which are suitable as beasts of burden, though.
 

Seldrin

Banned
Not large ones. The large species of Australian marsupials (kangaroos, large wallabies, wombats, koalas) are for various reasons not domesticable. Possibly a couple of smaller marsupial species are domesticable. Quolls, perhaps, as an analogue to domesticated cats, or maybe brushtail possums could be domesticated too.

However, counting the dingo, Australia does have at least three domesticable species, so they will have some animals around. Not which are suitable as beasts of burden, though.

What about the Diprotodon, they were basically huge wombats, they died out within 5000 years of aboriginal settlement of Australia, so there would be a possible mount or beast of burden.
 

mojojojo

Gone Fishin'
Not large ones. The large species of Australian marsupials (kangaroos, large wallabies, wombats, koalas) are for various reasons not domesticable. Possibly a couple of smaller marsupial species are domesticable. Quolls, perhaps, as an analogue to domesticated cats, or maybe brushtail possums could be domesticated too.
I was just thinking about that, I heard that Native Cats http://www.giveusahome.co.uk/australian/cats.htm get pretty friendly when raised from a young age

However, counting the dingo, Australia does have at least three domesticable species, so they will have some animals around. Not which are suitable as beasts of burden, though.
So , dingo, emu and what is the 3rd?
 
What about the Diprotodon, they were basically huge wombats, they died out within 5000 years of aboriginal settlement of Australia, so there would be a possible mount or beast of burden.

Like most megafauna around most of the world, Diprotodons were pretty much screwed from the moment humans arrived on the scene. The odds of them surviving aren't high, and even then we have no way of knowing if they were domesticable or not.

Fortunately, the nature of *Aboriginal agriculture will be such that the need for plowing etc will be much, much lower than in most other forms of agriculture, so the relative lack of domestic animals won't affect them so much. It will still hurt in other ways (transportation, mostly), but not as badly.

I was just thinking about that, I heard that Native Cats http://www.giveusahome.co.uk/australian/cats.htm get pretty friendly when raised from a young age

So , dingo, emu and what is the 3rd?

Ducks. Several Australian duck species are potentially domesticable. The Australian wood duck (Chenonetta jubata) is the most likely, since it feeds on grass and insects and needs only minimal contact with water. Some other duck species may well be domesticable too, such as Australian Shelduck (Tadorna tadornoides), and Pacific Black Duck (Anas superciliosa).

Domesticated ducks can be fed as grazers, allowed to catch insects, or fed from leftovers of human food, too. They won't be quite as good as chickens, for a variety of reasons, but they'll still be very useful as a source of meat, eggs, and feathers.
 
In terms of contact with Indonesian cultures, there probably won't be much. The Macassars (and maybe others) visited northern Australia in OTL, but those are the areas which ITTL will remain hunter-gatherer societies. This is because the crops which the *Aboriginals are using are subtropical crops; they can't be easily grown too far north of the Tropic of Capricorn. On the other hand, if the agricultural societies further south do take up metal-working with gold, then some of those items may be traded quite a long way. Maybe there would be some people wearing gold jewellery when the Macassars first arrive in the Northern Territory, and that could inspire them to explore further...

Actually IOTL the Bugis seafarers did travel south as far as Tasmania, IIRC. But of course, as you said, there won't be anything interesting for them in the areas further south without any metal-working-capable societies there. Whereas in Northern Australia they could gather salt, aborigine-made knives, trepangs (sea cucumbers, the Bugis actually built some villages so that they can stay as long as trepanging season of the year last), and sometimes also slaves.

But in this case of TTL where there is a more advanced civilization which can provide metalic products and jewellery for them, expect for some more kampongs to be built on the coasts of New South Wales, Victoria and Tasmania.
 
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mojojojo

Gone Fishin'
Ducks. Several Australian duck species are potentially domesticable. The Australian wood duck (Chenonetta jubata) is the most likely, since it feeds on grass and insects and needs only minimal contact with water. Some other duck species may well be domesticable too, such as Australian Shelduck (Tadorna tadornoides), and Pacific Black Duck (Anas superciliosa).

Domesticated ducks can be fed as grazers, allowed to catch insects, or fed from leftovers of human food, too. They won't be quite as good as chickens, for a variety of reasons, but they'll still be very useful as a source of meat, eggs, and feathers.
With Emus and ducks their main livestock, some thing tells me the aborigines will be heavily into feather work. Perhaps eggs as symbols and ritual objects will feature heavily in their religion.

Also what different and useful breads could dingos be developed into? Would they be any use in herding or wrangeling emus/
 
Actually IOTL the Bugis seafarers did travel south as far as Tasmania, IIRC.

As far as I know, Macassar contact with northern Australia was limited to the northern fringes of the Northern Territory and north-western WA. I've never even heard of them reaching Cape York, let alone making it down the east coast to Tasmania. This is still actually quite a long stretch of coast - up to 2000 km - but it's a very, very long way from there to Tasmania.

But of course, as you said, there won't be anything interesting for them in the areas further south without any metal-working-capable societies there. Whereas in Northern Australia they could gather salt, aborigine-made knives, trepangs (sea cucumbers, the Bugis actually built some villages so that they can stay as long as trepanging season of the year last), and sometimes also slaves.

As far as I know, the Bugis (and others) traded knives to the Aboriginal peoples, not brought Aboriginal knives home. (Since the Aboriginal people didn't have metal knives). The trepangs were the main good they came for; they may have taken back salt and a few other things, but the trepangs were the most valuable trade good they brought back.

But in this case of TTL where there is a more advanced civilization which can provide metalic products and jewellery for them, expect for some more kampongs to be built on the coasts of New South Wales, Victoria and Tasmania.

If the various Macassan peoples made it to the coasts of New South Wales and further south, they would probably establish trading posts, I agree. But I'm really not sure that they will make it there. Partly because they don't seem to have come anywhere near that far south in OTL, and also partly because I'm not sure by what date the Macassan contact with Australia started. The usual date cited is 1720 (at least for regular contact), by which time there will have been European contact with the southern areas of Australia for roughly a century. Some people have suggested that the contact stretched back to the fifteenth century, in which case the Macassan peoples would find northern Australia barely changed from what it was in OTL. (Some occasional trade goods from further south, but not much.) Would they be motivated to explore further than they went in OTL? Possibly, but I don't see any strong motivations.

With Emus and ducks their main livestock, some thing tells me the aborigines will be heavily into feather work. Perhaps eggs as symbols and ritual objects will feature heavily in their religion.

Yes, they will do a lot with feathers. Although emus are good for leather, too.

Also what different and useful breads could dingos be developed into? Would they be any use in herding or wrangeling emus/

Mostly as hunting dogs, herd dogs, or guard dogs, I suspect. Dingos could probably be trained to herd emus, for instance.
 
Hrm.... Raising dogs for food is a strong tendency of cultures short on domesticables, but I suppose it tends mostly to turn up in very urban societies. On a smaller scale it's easier for the dogs to escape and there's less pressure for meat when hunting is a possibility for nearly every family.

Might we see something like OTL North America where Indians in the southwest and on the plains used dogs as pack animals pulling travois?
 

mojojojo

Gone Fishin'
Also, how much of a faunal interchange will there be between the Aborigines and the Maori? Will Emus and domesticated ducks be common among the Maori? Will quolls (the Maori already have dogs)? Will any wild creatures be transported either way?

Also I bet domesticated quolls would be a BIG hit in Europe a strange exotic animal that is friendly and tame!
 
Hrm.... Raising dogs for food is a strong tendency of cultures short on domesticables, but I suppose it tends mostly to turn up in very urban societies.

It's not impossible for dogs to be bred for food, but I suspect that their main use will be for other purposes. Emus and ducks will be easier to feed than dogs, and hence if dog meat is consumed, it would probably be a high-status meat.

On a smaller scale it's easier for the dogs to escape and there's less pressure for meat when hunting is a possibility for nearly every family.

Hmm. There will be parts of Australia which are heavily urbanised. So there might be dogs bred in those areas.

Might we see something like OTL North America where Indians in the southwest and on the plains used dogs as pack animals pulling travois?

It's possible. Or maybe even small carts, although I'm not sure how well dogs would go in that sort of harness.

Also, how much of a faunal interchange will there be between the Aborigines and the Maori? Will Emus and domesticated ducks be common among the Maori?

Ducks, at least, would almost certainly make the crossing; there will be enough contact to ensure that. Emus may be harder to transport; even young ones would be a pain to to fit on canoes.

Will quolls (the Maori already have dogs)?

If quolls are domesticated (still not sure on that), they may make the trip. The Maori already had dogs, but there would probably be a much greater range of breeds in Australia.

Will any wild creatures be transported either way?

The kiore/Polynesian rat, almost certainly. It showed up pretty much everywhere else the Polynesians had contact with. Past that, I'm not sure.

Also I bet domesticated quolls would be a BIG hit in Europe a strange exotic animal that is friendly and tame!

Could be entertaining. And could also become pests, if they turn feral.
 
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