I stand corrected.

I'm not sure, what did they trade IOTL for the plans to the Me-262 & Me-163? I think if the Japanese learn of the Do-335, the Germans would find a way to accommodate them. The Germans (even Hitler) knew it was in Germany's best interest to keep Japan in the war.

Not sure about the Me-262, but apparently the Japanese bought the license and designs for the Me-163. But yes, good point: the Germans wouldn't mind selling the design for the Do-335 to Japan if it means helping them pin at least some of the Allied forces away from Europe if nothing else.

Though, with the Ki-84 entering service by 1944, and apparently capable of mounting drop tanks, dedicated heavy fighters may not be needed. If the Ki-84 could reach and attack enemy heavy bombers in flight, they can fly escort for Japanese heavy bombers as well.
 
Not sure about the Me-262, but apparently the Japanese bought the license and designs for the Me-163. But yes, good point: the Germans wouldn't mind selling the design for the Do-335 to Japan if it means helping them pin at least some of the Allied forces away from Europe if nothing else.

Though, with the Ki-84 entering service by 1944, and apparently capable of mounting drop tanks, dedicated heavy fighters may not be needed. If the Ki-84 could reach and attack enemy heavy bombers in flight, they can fly escort for Japanese heavy bombers as well.
I think its doable.

On another note,I hope this thread isn't dead. :frown:
 
I think its doable.

On another note,I hope this thread isn't dead. :frown:

I hope so too, which is why I'm still looking up Japanese aircraft and posting about them in the hope they can be of use.

Someone else has to do IJN ships though. It's a complete mess. They might have been the more cutting-edged service, but seriously, how they managed to be that despite having a more convoluted design trail (?) is beyond me :noexpression:
 
I hope so too, which is why I'm still looking up Japanese aircraft and posting about them in the hope they can be of use.

Someone else has to do IJN ships though. It's a complete mess. They might have been the more cutting-edged service, but seriously, how they managed to be that despite having a more convoluted design trail (?) is beyond me :noexpression:
I don't know that much about naval matters, tactics, strategies and such. My understanding is the IJN got some things and some things wrong (a lot wrong?). I'd like to see some one do a Japan ISOT TL where they benefit from hindsight, so many other countries have had these types of TLs done, would like to see a Japan wank for a change.
 
I don't know that much about naval matters, tactics, strategies and such. My understanding is the IJN got some things and some things wrong (a lot wrong?). I'd like to see some one do a Japan ISOT TL where they benefit from hindsight, so many other countries have had these types of TLs done, would like to see a Japan wank for a change.

Here you go. And speaking of benefiting from hindsight, well, the IJN has decided to go and do the Soviet Cold War Naval Doctrine right, on the basis that Japan doesn't have the manpower to maintain a super-carrier fleet that fully reflects ISOT Japan's economic and industrial might. They already have Tu-22M analogs in production by this point in the TL, and two Kirov Class analogs (the Mikasa Class) in the yards. They also have IIRC one proper light carrier (an analog to the Hermes Class IIRC with plans for more advanced carriers in the future) commissioned, alongside the four (refitted) light carriers from OTL, and another two Taiho Class (the Hermes Class analog's class) in the yards. They've also been expanding their Atago Class DDG fleet, and are working on modern, nuclear-powered hunter-killers. And yes, they have Tomahawk-derivatives in production already, along with a Granit analog for the Mikasa Class Battlecruisers.
 
Here you go. And speaking of benefiting from hindsight, well, the IJN has decided to go and do the Soviet Cold War Naval Doctrine right, on the basis that Japan doesn't have the manpower to maintain a super-carrier fleet that fully reflects ISOT Japan's economic and industrial might. They already have Tu-22M analogs in production by this point in the TL, and two Kirov Class analogs (the Mikasa Class) in the yards. They also have IIRC one proper light carrier (an analog to the Hermes Class IIRC with plans for more advanced carriers in the future) commissioned, alongside the four (refitted) light carriers from OTL, and another two Taiho Class (the Hermes Class analog's class) in the yards. They've also been expanding their Atago Class DDG fleet, and are working on modern, nuclear-powered hunter-killers. And yes, they have Tomahawk-derivatives in production already, along with a Granit analog for the Mikasa Class Battlecruisers.
Interesting, I'll give it a read.
Thanks.
 
Interesting, I'll give it a read.
Thanks.

No problem :)

Be warned though: it's a very long TL, to the point the original discussion thread has been locked due to having 600+ pages. Starts with 2015 Japan ISOT to 1939, and is currently at...mid-1942 IIRC. If you do stick with it though, happy reading.
 
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