Huge Libyan Oil Discovery in 1940?

In OTL deep drilled water wells had in the decades prior to WWII revealed lots of natural gas in Libya. In 1937 a water well drilled near Tripoli found oil. The Italian exploratory drilling program begun in 1940 unfortunately was underfunded and not equipped with drilling equipment suited to desert conditions. When the desert war came to Libya the exploration ceased.

Here's a link to a brief webpage about the Libyan oil history. http://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/libyanoil.htm

And this is a link to a wiki article about oil reserves in Libya, including an excellent map of the oil reserve locations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_reserves_in_Libya

Wagner's Germany, in particular Todt's people, would work hard to find oil and maximize oil production in Reich, allied and occupied lands. The rumors of oil in the Libyan desert should have come to the attention of Todt's and Heydrich's people in 1937. I can see the Germans immediately proposing a high-priority joint Italian-German oil exploration program, well funded and properly equipped, commencing exploration in 1938. It's reasonable to expect that they would have discovered one of the major oil fields in north-central Libya in 1939 and have moved heaven and earth to begin initial oil production by 1940. They'd also be feverishly building a pipeline from the inland oil field to an oil terminal on the coast, likely at Marsa el Brega, with terminal operation beginning by mid-1941.

It's reasonable that the joint Italian-German exploration program would have included German industrial and military engineers, working together to find and exploit the oil as quickly as possible. German military air and army could have also been involved, providing ground transport and security as well as air reconnaissance. These German military units would also be amassing valuable experience in operating troops and equipment and managing logistics in desert conditions, that would come in handy in the forthcoming desert war.

The vast Libyan oil fields could within a few years provide enough oil to enable the Italian-German Libyan Oil Company (IGLOC) to supply an increasingly large percentage of the total oil needs of Germany and Italy, eventually generating a surplus for international export.

A secure and rapidly expanding supply of Libyan oil would have an incredible impact on the strategies and goals of the war in the desert ITTL, which begins in the Summer of 1941 ITTL.

ITTL the Germans would be committed to protecting the oil fields in north-central Libya. The British would be determined to capture or destroy them. This would make the desert war ITTL very different from the one in OTL.

It would also ITTL make it unnecessary for Germany to attack the Caucasus or Middle East and capture those oil fields to supply the German economy and military with the oil it needs.
Considering the Matzen oilfield and the way Wagner encouraged large surveys for oil in annexed Austria, it does seem likely that Libyan oilfields should be discovered by this point.

Germany should also make sure that they secure Gibraltar and the majority of North Africa by 1943, before the British supply situation there improves due to indigenous jerrycan production. The Jerrycan, designed by Vinzenz Grünvogel, was a key factor in German success in North Africa, and its inferior Allied counterpart (the 5-gallon petrol tin, nicknamed the "flimsy") cost the US and British an estimated 30 to 40 percent of all the fuel they shipped to North Africa due to spillage, evaporation, and leakage. By 1943, however, the British had geared up to produce and ship 2 million jerrycans of their own to North Africa to assist in logistics. It is thus important that the British be mostly pushed out of North Africa by that point.

The Little Can That Could
BY RICHARD M. DANIEL
During World War II the United States exported more tons of petroleum products than of all other war matériel combined. The mainstay of the enormous oil-andgasoline transportation network that fed the war was the oceangoing tanker, supplemented on land by pipelines, railroad tank cars, and trucks. But for combat vehicles on the move, another link was crucial—smaller containers that could be carried and poured by hand and moved around a battle zone by trucks.

Hitler knew this. He perceived early on that the weakest link in his plans for blitzkrieg using his panzer divisions was fuel supply. He ordered his staff to design a fuel container that would minimize gasoline losses under combat conditions. As a result the German army had thousands of jerrycans, as they came to be called, stored and ready when hostilities began in 1939.

The jerrycan had been developed under the strictest secrecy, and its unique features were many. It was flat-sided and rectangular in shape, consisting of two halves welded together as in a typical automobile gasoline tank. It had three handles, enabling one man to carry two cans and pass one to another man in bucket-brigade fashion. Its capacity was approximately five U.S. gallons; its weight filled, forty-five pounds. Thanks to an air chamber at the top, it would float on water if dropped overboard or from a plane. Its short spout was secured with a snap closure that could be propped open for pouring, making unnecessary any funnel or opener. A gasket made the mouth leakproof. An air-breathing tube from the spout to the air space kept the pouring smooth. And most important, the can’s inside was lined with an impervious plastic material developed for the insides of steel beer barrels. This enabled the jerrycan to be used alternately for gasoline and water.

Early in the summer of 1939, this secret weapon began a roundabout odyssey into American hands. An American engineer named Paul Pleiss, finishing up a manufacturing job in Berlin, persuaded a German colleague to join him on a vacation trip overland to India. The two bought an automobile chassis and built a body for it. As they prepared to leave on their journey, they realized that they had no provision for emergency water. The German engineer knew of and had access to thousands of jerrycans stored at Tempelhof Airport. He simply took three and mounted them on the underside of the car.

The two drove across eleven national borders without incident and were halfway across India when Field Marshal Goering sent a plane to take the German engineer back home. Before departing, the engineer compounded his treason by giving Pleiss complete specifications for the jerrycan’s manufacture. Pleiss continued on alone to Calcutta. Then he put the car in storage and returned to Philadelphia.

Back in the United States, Pleiss told military officials about the container, but without a sample can he could stir no interest, even though the war was now well under way. The risk involved in having the cans removed from the car and shipped from Calcutta seemed too great, so he eventually had the complete vehicle sent to him, via Turkey and the Cape of Good Hope. It arrived in New York in the summer of 1940 with the three jerrycans intact. Pleiss immediately sent one of the cans to Washington. The War Department looked at it but unwisely decided that an updated version of their World War I container would be good enough. That was a cylindrical ten-gallon can with two screw closures. It required a wrench and a funnel for pouring.

That one jerrycan in the Army’s possession was later sent to Camp Holabird, in Maryland. There it was poorly redesigned; the only features retained were the size, shape, and handles. The welded circumferential joint was replaced with rolled seams around the bottom and one side. Both a wrench and a funnel were required for its use. And it now had no lining. As any petroleum engineer knows, it is unsafe to store gasoline in a container with rolled seams. This ersatz can did not win wide acceptance.

The British first encountered the jerrycan during the German invasion of Norway, in 1940, and gave it its English name (the Germans were, of course, the “Jerries”). Later that year Pleiss was in London and was asked by British officers if he knew anything about the can’s design and manufacture. He ordered the second of his three jerrycans flown to London. Steps were taken to manufacture exact duplicates of it.

Two years later the United States was still oblivious of the can. Then, in September 1942, two quality-control officers posted to American refineries in the Mideast ran smack into the problems being created by ignoring the jerrycan. I was one of those two. Passing through Cairo two weeks before the start of the Battle of El Alamein, we learned that the British wanted no part of a planned U.S. Navy can; as far as they were concerned, the only container worth having was the Jerrycan, even though their only supply was those captured in battle. The British were bitter; two years after the invasion of Norway there was still no evidence that their government had done anything about the jerrycan.

My colleague and I learned quickly about the jerrycan’s advantages and the Allied can’s costly disadvantages, and we sent a cable to naval officals in Washington stating that 40 percent of all the gasoline sent to Egypt was being lost through spillage and evaporation. We added that a detailed report would follow. The 40 percent figure was actually a guess intended to provoke alarm, but it worked. A cable came back immediately requesting confirmation.

We then arranged a visit to several fuel-handling depots at the rear of Montgomery’s army and found there that conditions were indeed appalling. Fuel arrived by rail from the sea in fifty-five-gallon steel drums with rolled seams and friction-sealed metallic mouths. The drums were handled violently by local laborers. Many leaked. The next link in the chain was the infamous five-gallon “petrol tin.” This was a square can of tin plate that had been used for decades to supply lamp kerosene. It was hardly useful for gasoline. In the hot desert sun, it tended to swell up, burst at the seams, and leak. Since a funnel was needed for pouring, spillage was also a problem.

Similar tins were carried on Liberator bombers in flight. They leaked out perhaps a third of the fuel they carried. Because of this, General Wavell’s defeat of the Italians in North Africa in 1940 had come to naught. His planes and combat vehicles had literally run out of gas. Likewise in 1941, General Auchinleck’s victory over Rommel had withered away. In 1942 General Montgomery saw to it that he had enough supplies, including gasoline, to whip Rommel in spite of terrific wastage. And he was helped by captured jerrycans.

The British historian Desmond Young later confirmed the great importance of oil cans in the early African part of the war. “No one who did not serve in the desert,” he wrote, “can realise to what extent the difference between complete and partial success rested on the simplest item of our equipment—and the worst. Whoever sent our troops into desert warfare with the [five-gallon] petrol tin has much to answer for. General Auchinleck estimates that this ‘flimsy and illconstructed container’ led to the loss of thirty per cent of petrol between base and consumer. … The overall loss was almost incalculable. To calculate the tanks destroyed, the number of men who were killed or went into captivity because of shortage of petrol at some crucial moment, the ships and merchant seamen lost in carrying it, would be quite impossible.”

After my colleague and I made our report, a new five-gallon container under consideration in Washington was canceled. Meanwhile the British were finally gearing up for mass production. Two million British jerrycans were sent to North Africa in early 1943, and by early 1944 they were being manufactured in the Middle East. Since the British had such a head start, the Allies agreed to let them produce all the cans needed for the invasion of Europe. Millions were ready by D-day. By V-E day some twenty-one million Allied jerrycans had been scattered all over Europe. President Roosevelt observed in November 1944, “Without these cans it would have been impossible for our armies to cut their way across France at a lightning pace which exceeded the German Blitz of 1940.”

In Washington little about the jerrycan appears in the official record. A military report says simply, “A sample of the jerry can was brought to the office of the Quartermaster General in the summer of 1940.”

Richard M. Daniel is a retired commander in the U.S. Naval Reserve and a chemical engineer.

(Source)
Below: A Jerrycan (at right) next to its much inferior and more leaky predecessor
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It's update time. As always, readers' opinions are solicited.

Chapter 4
Tracks in the Desert


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British tanks during Operation Sundial.


As the long, hot summer of 1941 wore on, the economic and military circumstances of the war with Britain were not the only matters which occupied the guiding minds of the NSVP regime. Public opinion is always a matter of prime concern for dictatorships, but it occupied a particularly important place in the minds of the National Socialists, who were haunted by the painful memory of the collapse of the German homefront during the Great War. This being so, the regular reports of the SD on the mood of the populace were always given careful scrutiny. And recently they had begun to grow concerning in certain ways. The initial euphoria which had accompanied the victory over France had begun to wear off, to be replaced by puzzlement at the persistent refusal of the British to come to terms. To be sure, there was no sign of any deep-seated discontent, let alone unrest, in evidence, but remarks such as “If things were really going as well as they say on the radio and in the newspapers, wouldn’t the war be over by now?” could be heard with increasing frequency.(a)


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German vehicles arriving in Tripoli.


If popular morale in Germany left a few things to be desired, in Britain the problem, as might be expected, was far worse. The disintegration of the Western Front and the wholesale destruction of the BEF had been dismaying in the extreme, and unlike the German propaganda apparatus, which could trumpet the achievements of the daring U-boat crews thwarting the mighty Royal Navy in the Battle of the Atlantic, antisubmarine warfare offered little glamour. This was one of the reasons that the entirely unexpected success of General O’Connor’s troops in stopping the Italian invasion of Egypt had been so welcome. Outnumbered four-to-one, the totals being 200,000 Italians to 50,000 British, O’Connor first succeeded in halting the advance by early July through a combination of skillfully executed withdrawals and subsequent counterattacks against overextended Italian forces. Then, in the middle of the month, he initiated an audacious general offensive, codenamed Operation Sundial, during the course of which his armored forces were sent on a wide swing through the southern desert, taking the shocked 10th Army in the rear. Half of the Italian force was killed or captured, and the other half was driven in high disorder back into Libya. By mid-August, when the growing presence of German forces made further offensives imprudent, Tobruk had fallen and the British had a firm foothold in Cyrenaica.(b) In his memoirs, von Manstein would admit that “It was a mistake on our part not to study more thoroughly this demonstration of what O’Connor was capable of.” Left unstated was the reason for such lack of attention, the widespread disdain for Italy’s military capabilities in the upper echelons of the Volkswehr’s leadership and the extreme confidence engendered by the victory over France.


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A group of WDF tanks retreating from Tobruk under the cover of the RAF.


At first, the course of events seemed to fully vindicate such sentiment. By late in the month, the Axis forces under Manstein’s command totaled 150,000 men, including three panzer divisions with around 800 tanks. Britain’s Western Desert Force had also grown somewhat, to slightly under 100,000 men with between 400 and 500 operational tanks. Importantly, the Luftwaffe, as related previously, had been able to attain a firm margin of superiority in the air, although the logistical limitations imposed by the remoteness of the theater prevented the kind of supremacy which had been attained at critical points during the French campaign.(c) At the Second Battle of Tobruk, Manstein sent his armor on an even deeper arc through the desert than O’Connor had done during Sundial. The maneuver had been anticipated, but its depth had not been. German fighters diligently prevented the reconnaissance planes of the RAF from seeing too much, and the German and Italian infantry near the coast was ordered to kick up huge clouds of dust to mimic what would have been produced by a larger force. On September 1st, Panzerarmee Afrika's mobile divisions emerged out of the desert, placing themselves squarely along the WDF’s lines of resupply and retreat. It was now that O’Connor did exactly what the Germans did not expect. Instead of attempting a breakout strait east, into Manstein’s “armored fist,” using his last fuel reserves, he sent his own mobile forces to the southeast, forcing the Panzerarmee’s startled headquarters to pull its spearheads back, so as to prevent the encirclers from becoming the encircled. As a result, a corridor opened. Although not particularly wide, it was enough to allow the WDF to retreat, in good order, to fight another day. Manstein would later write “It was now that the realization dawned on us that the adversary here was not the one we had faced in France and Norway.”


Notes:
(a) Similar to OTL, although to a somewhat lesser extent.
(b) As bad a performance by the Italians as this is, it’s better than the historical one.
(c) Although the supply situation is quite a bit better than OTL, there are still inevitable shortages.


One month to send 3 German armoured divisions to Lybya is very ambitious. It implies an increase in port capacity in Triopli by a considerable margin over OTL.

In reality it took three months for one and a half panzer Divisions plus Luftwaffe support to travel to Libya .

Cheers Hipper.
 
Great update. This will be my favorite part of the TL as the desert war to me was fascinating in it's potential. (I will struggle missing Rommel though)

Couple questions;

Has Gibaltrar already fallen to the Axis, or are they still sieging it? I guess that the British wil have a harder time with supply if they lose it and have the Mediterrea closed to them except for the Suez Canal.

Good point here, but even more important what was happening with Malta. With the build up of German forces in Libya, that logistics line was always in peril IRL. What has Wagner done to secure that line so 1/2 of what he sends to North Africa doesn't end up at the bottom of the Med?

Huge Libyan Oil Discovery in 1940?

If this were to happen everybody would understand the critical importance of controlling the Mediterranean, particularly around Malta.

The Italian Navy was in difficult situation with a British fleet based in Alexandria and one in Gibraltar. They did not have the ability to split their fleet and have a superior force to tackle both the Eastern and Western Med. How was the British Navy (particularly their subs) kept away? How about the RAF?

it seems like you could do an update just covering these topics!
 

Good update​
Nicely balanced update. GREAT !

Thanks! I'm glad you're enjoying things.

Has Gibaltrar already fallen to the Axis, or are they still sieging it? I guess that the British wil have a harder time with supply if they lose it and have the Mediterrea closed to them except for the Suez Canal.

It's still under siege. At the moment, the RN can still move some shipping through the straits, but it's getting more difficult.

It will be quite entertaining to see two brilliant generals engage each other. Both Manstein and O'Connor's tactics are nothing short of genius. A battle of the foxes
With the front moving to the Med, Wagner needs to secure the Balkans. If he doesn't the UK could acquire a dagger into his rear (think the allied invasion of Italy OTL, but with a mainland jumping off point.)

Looks like O'Connor and Manstein will be dueling here, rather than Rommel and a series of less capable British generals. O'Connor's bad luck to be captured early in the desert war in OTL meant he sat out the bulk of WWII in a POW camp. ITTL he's free and very much in charge. Should get very interesting.

Indeed, O'Connor's capture was an instance of bad luck which is butterflied away here, and I'm hoping to have some interesting variations compared to OTL as a result of generals of his and Manstein's quality facing each other. Regarding the Balkans, the Germans do have detailed contingency plans for operations there (broadly similar to OTL Operations 25 and Marita) should the British try to gain a foothold. Remember, though, that with the capture of the BEF, Britain's manpower is more constrained than it was historically.

Any plans for the third wheel of the axis when the time comes?

Good question. Unfortunately, I can't answer directly due to spoilers...

Huge Libyan Oil Discovery in 1940?

In OTL deep drilled water wells had in the decades prior to WWII revealed lots of natural gas in Libya. In 1937 a water well drilled near Tripoli found oil. The Italian exploratory drilling program begun in 1940 unfortunately was underfunded and not equipped with drilling equipment suited to desert conditions. When the desert war came to Libya the exploration ceased.

Here's a link to a brief webpage about the Libyan oil history. http://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/libyanoil.htm

And this is a link to a wiki article about oil reserves in Libya, including an excellent map of the oil reserve locations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_reserves_in_Libya

Wagner's Germany, in particular Todt's people, would work hard to find oil and maximize oil production in Reich, allied and occupied lands. The rumors of oil in the Libyan desert should have come to the attention of Todt's and Heydrich's people in 1937. I can see the Germans immediately proposing a high-priority joint Italian-German oil exploration program, well funded and properly equipped, commencing exploration in 1938. It's reasonable to expect that they would have discovered one of the major oil fields in north-central Libya in 1939 and have moved heaven and earth to begin initial oil production by 1940. They'd also be feverishly building a pipeline from the inland oil field to an oil terminal on the coast, likely at Marsa el Brega, with terminal operation beginning by mid-1941.

It's reasonable that the joint Italian-German exploration program would have included German industrial and military engineers, working together to find and exploit the oil as quickly as possible. German military air and army could have also been involved, providing ground transport and security as well as air reconnaissance. These German military units would also be amassing valuable experience in operating troops and equipment and managing logistics in desert conditions, that would come in handy in the forthcoming desert war.

The vast Libyan oil fields could within a few years provide enough oil to enable the Italian-German Libyan Oil Company (IGLOC) to supply an increasingly large percentage of the total oil needs of Germany and Italy, eventually generating a surplus for international export.

A secure and rapidly expanding supply of Libyan oil would have an incredible impact on the strategies and goals of the war in the desert ITTL, which begins in the Summer of 1941 ITTL.

ITTL the Germans would be committed to protecting the oil fields in north-central Libya. The British would be determined to capture or destroy them. This would make the desert war ITTL very different from the one in OTL.

It would also ITTL make it unnecessary for Germany to attack the Caucasus or Middle East and capture those oil fields to supply the German economy and military with the oil it needs.

The possibility of increased utilization of Libyan oil in the pre-war period is an interesting one. I refrained from using it out of concern that it would represent excessive good fortune for the Axis, but you make a very good case here that it would be a reasonable and logical result of the changed German leadership structure of TTL.

Does anyone object to the possibility? If not, I'll go ahead and modify the requisite chapters accordingly.

Considering the Matzen oilfield and the way Wagner encouraged large surveys for oil in annexed Austria, it does seem likely that Libyan oilfields should be discovered by this point.

Germany should also make sure that they secure Gibraltar and the majority of North Africa by 1943, before the British supply situation there improves due to indigenous jerrycan production. The Jerrycan, designed by Vinzenz Grünvogel, was a key factor in German success in North Africa, and its inferior Allied counterpart (the 5-gallon petrol tin, nicknamed the "flimsy") cost the US and British an estimated 30 to 40 percent of all the fuel they shipped to North Africa due to spillage, evaporation, and leakage. By 1943, however, the British had geared up to produce and ship 2 million jerrycans of their own to North Africa to assist in logistics. It is thus important that the British be mostly pushed out of North Africa by that point.

The Little Can That Could
BY RICHARD M. DANIEL
During World War II the United States exported more tons of petroleum products than of all other war matériel combined. The mainstay of the enormous oil-andgasoline transportation network that fed the war was the oceangoing tanker, supplemented on land by pipelines, railroad tank cars, and trucks. But for combat vehicles on the move, another link was crucial—smaller containers that could be carried and poured by hand and moved around a battle zone by trucks.

Hitler knew this. He perceived early on that the weakest link in his plans for blitzkrieg using his panzer divisions was fuel supply. He ordered his staff to design a fuel container that would minimize gasoline losses under combat conditions. As a result the German army had thousands of jerrycans, as they came to be called, stored and ready when hostilities began in 1939.

The jerrycan had been developed under the strictest secrecy, and its unique features were many. It was flat-sided and rectangular in shape, consisting of two halves welded together as in a typical automobile gasoline tank. It had three handles, enabling one man to carry two cans and pass one to another man in bucket-brigade fashion. Its capacity was approximately five U.S. gallons; its weight filled, forty-five pounds. Thanks to an air chamber at the top, it would float on water if dropped overboard or from a plane. Its short spout was secured with a snap closure that could be propped open for pouring, making unnecessary any funnel or opener. A gasket made the mouth leakproof. An air-breathing tube from the spout to the air space kept the pouring smooth. And most important, the can’s inside was lined with an impervious plastic material developed for the insides of steel beer barrels. This enabled the jerrycan to be used alternately for gasoline and water.

Early in the summer of 1939, this secret weapon began a roundabout odyssey into American hands. An American engineer named Paul Pleiss, finishing up a manufacturing job in Berlin, persuaded a German colleague to join him on a vacation trip overland to India. The two bought an automobile chassis and built a body for it. As they prepared to leave on their journey, they realized that they had no provision for emergency water. The German engineer knew of and had access to thousands of jerrycans stored at Tempelhof Airport. He simply took three and mounted them on the underside of the car.

The two drove across eleven national borders without incident and were halfway across India when Field Marshal Goering sent a plane to take the German engineer back home. Before departing, the engineer compounded his treason by giving Pleiss complete specifications for the jerrycan’s manufacture. Pleiss continued on alone to Calcutta. Then he put the car in storage and returned to Philadelphia.

Back in the United States, Pleiss told military officials about the container, but without a sample can he could stir no interest, even though the war was now well under way. The risk involved in having the cans removed from the car and shipped from Calcutta seemed too great, so he eventually had the complete vehicle sent to him, via Turkey and the Cape of Good Hope. It arrived in New York in the summer of 1940 with the three jerrycans intact. Pleiss immediately sent one of the cans to Washington. The War Department looked at it but unwisely decided that an updated version of their World War I container would be good enough. That was a cylindrical ten-gallon can with two screw closures. It required a wrench and a funnel for pouring.

That one jerrycan in the Army’s possession was later sent to Camp Holabird, in Maryland. There it was poorly redesigned; the only features retained were the size, shape, and handles. The welded circumferential joint was replaced with rolled seams around the bottom and one side. Both a wrench and a funnel were required for its use. And it now had no lining. As any petroleum engineer knows, it is unsafe to store gasoline in a container with rolled seams. This ersatz can did not win wide acceptance.

The British first encountered the jerrycan during the German invasion of Norway, in 1940, and gave it its English name (the Germans were, of course, the “Jerries”). Later that year Pleiss was in London and was asked by British officers if he knew anything about the can’s design and manufacture. He ordered the second of his three jerrycans flown to London. Steps were taken to manufacture exact duplicates of it.

Two years later the United States was still oblivious of the can. Then, in September 1942, two quality-control officers posted to American refineries in the Mideast ran smack into the problems being created by ignoring the jerrycan. I was one of those two. Passing through Cairo two weeks before the start of the Battle of El Alamein, we learned that the British wanted no part of a planned U.S. Navy can; as far as they were concerned, the only container worth having was the Jerrycan, even though their only supply was those captured in battle. The British were bitter; two years after the invasion of Norway there was still no evidence that their government had done anything about the jerrycan.

My colleague and I learned quickly about the jerrycan’s advantages and the Allied can’s costly disadvantages, and we sent a cable to naval officals in Washington stating that 40 percent of all the gasoline sent to Egypt was being lost through spillage and evaporation. We added that a detailed report would follow. The 40 percent figure was actually a guess intended to provoke alarm, but it worked. A cable came back immediately requesting confirmation.

We then arranged a visit to several fuel-handling depots at the rear of Montgomery’s army and found there that conditions were indeed appalling. Fuel arrived by rail from the sea in fifty-five-gallon steel drums with rolled seams and friction-sealed metallic mouths. The drums were handled violently by local laborers. Many leaked. The next link in the chain was the infamous five-gallon “petrol tin.” This was a square can of tin plate that had been used for decades to supply lamp kerosene. It was hardly useful for gasoline. In the hot desert sun, it tended to swell up, burst at the seams, and leak. Since a funnel was needed for pouring, spillage was also a problem.

Similar tins were carried on Liberator bombers in flight. They leaked out perhaps a third of the fuel they carried. Because of this, General Wavell’s defeat of the Italians in North Africa in 1940 had come to naught. His planes and combat vehicles had literally run out of gas. Likewise in 1941, General Auchinleck’s victory over Rommel had withered away. In 1942 General Montgomery saw to it that he had enough supplies, including gasoline, to whip Rommel in spite of terrific wastage. And he was helped by captured jerrycans.

The British historian Desmond Young later confirmed the great importance of oil cans in the early African part of the war. “No one who did not serve in the desert,” he wrote, “can realise to what extent the difference between complete and partial success rested on the simplest item of our equipment—and the worst. Whoever sent our troops into desert warfare with the [five-gallon] petrol tin has much to answer for. General Auchinleck estimates that this ‘flimsy and illconstructed container’ led to the loss of thirty per cent of petrol between base and consumer. … The overall loss was almost incalculable. To calculate the tanks destroyed, the number of men who were killed or went into captivity because of shortage of petrol at some crucial moment, the ships and merchant seamen lost in carrying it, would be quite impossible.”

After my colleague and I made our report, a new five-gallon container under consideration in Washington was canceled. Meanwhile the British were finally gearing up for mass production. Two million British jerrycans were sent to North Africa in early 1943, and by early 1944 they were being manufactured in the Middle East. Since the British had such a head start, the Allies agreed to let them produce all the cans needed for the invasion of Europe. Millions were ready by D-day. By V-E day some twenty-one million Allied jerrycans had been scattered all over Europe. President Roosevelt observed in November 1944, “Without these cans it would have been impossible for our armies to cut their way across France at a lightning pace which exceeded the German Blitz of 1940.”

In Washington little about the jerrycan appears in the official record. A military report says simply, “A sample of the jerry can was brought to the office of the Quartermaster General in the summer of 1940.”

Richard M. Daniel is a retired commander in the U.S. Naval Reserve and a chemical engineer.

(Source)
Below: A Jerrycan (at right) next to its much inferior and more leaky predecessor
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Very interesting and informative article! I can say that the North African theater will be resolved one way or the other by 1943.

One month to send 3 German armoured divisions to Lybya is very ambitious. It implies an increase in port capacity in Triopli by a considerable margin over OTL.

In reality it took three months for one and a half panzer Divisions plus Luftwaffe support to travel to Libya .

Cheers Hipper.

Well, the transfers themselves began in June as it became clear very quickly that the Italian offensive into Egypt wasn't going well, and were only fully completed in late August, when Manstein's attack began. And in TTL, the Axis enhanced the ports and transportation network in Libya during the time before the war broke out.

Great update. This will be my favorite part of the TL as the desert war to me was fascinating in it's potential. (I will struggle missing Rommel though)

Couple questions;

Good point here, but even more important what was happening with Malta. With the build up of German forces in Libya, that logistics line was always in peril IRL. What has Wagner done to secure that line so 1/2 of what he sends to North Africa doesn't end up at the bottom of the Med?

If this were to happen everybody would understand the critical importance of controlling the Mediterranean, particularly around Malta.

The Italian Navy was in difficult situation with a British fleet based in Alexandria and one in Gibraltar. They did not have the ability to split their fleet and have a superior force to tackle both the Eastern and Western Med. How was the British Navy (particularly their subs) kept away? How about the RAF?

it seems like you could do an update just covering these topics!

Rommel will have a prominent role, don't worry. As for Malta, there is no doubt it's still a major thorn in the Axis' side. But taking into account the extra time the British have had to build up their defenses, the OKV simply doesn't see a direct assault as practicable. As a result, it has to accept that a certain portion of the supplies sent to North Africa will be sunk while using airpower to minimize that fraction. It should also be noted that as big a problem as Malta was, it wasn't as big as those which arose because of inadequate local infrastructure. See quotes from Supplying War which are posted in the middle (pages 4-5 IIRC) of this thread https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/mediterranean-option.386616/.
 
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hipper

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Well, the transfers themselves began in June as it became clear very quickly that the Italian offensive into Egypt wasn't going well, and were only fully completed in late August, when Manstein's attack began. And in TTL, the Axis enhanced the ports and transportation network in Libya during the time before the war broke out.

I was going to suggest that German Panzer divisions would be a little busy in June, but I see they conquered France in less than 25 days during May.

Given that I'm surprised that they took as long as three months to move to Africa.

Cheers Hipper.
 
Given that I'm surprised that they took as long as three months to move to Africa.

From what I understand the Germans prioritized gaining air superiority over the Med first. I imagine moving planes, pilots, and their supplies took priority over von Manstein's forces. Prudent too: transporting an army through contested waters* would be much safer with air cover.

*Gibraltar and Malta are still under siege, after all.
 

hipper

Banned
I'm sorry Was being sarcastic, but the premise of this TL is clearly stated. I'll stop commenting.

Hipper.
 
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NoMommsen

Donor
The possibility of increased utilization of Libyan oil in the pre-war period is an interesting one. I refrained from using it out of concern that it would represent excessive good fortune for the Axis, but you make a very good case here that it would be a reasonable and logical result of the changed German leadership structure of TTL.

Does anyone object to the possibility? If not, I'll go ahead and modify the requisite chapters accordingly.
From what time on there were 'better' relations with Benny ? ... and knowing of possible shortage of oil, looking for alternatives ... couldn't there have been exploration teams in the western as well as eastern lybian deserts already in 1935/36 ? (Btw. : fast exploration for oil by 'sonic' measurements was a german invention of the middle to late 20ies ;))

However, discovering lybian oil earlier and starting to build up an according infrastructure (pipelines to the coast, tank-ships, build up of according port-facilities and refinery near Venice as they exist OTL, pielines to Austria/Germany (?) for using refineries there, ...)
- on the one side looks as a big bonus for the axis
- on the other side it would draw very close attention of the wallies already prior to war.

The political and especially the military pre-war development in the mediterrainian would be ... interesting (in the chinese sense :openedeyewink:)
 
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I was going to suggest that German Panzer divisions would be a little busy in June, but I see they conquered France in less than 25 days during May.

Given that I'm surprised that they took as long as three months to move to Africa.

Cheers Hipper.

I'm sorry Imwas being sarcastic, but the premise of this TL is clearly stated. I'll stop commenting.

Hipper.

Well, even if France hadn't capitulated in late May, the transfer of the three armored divisions could have proceeded. By then the big encirclements had been completed and the final result was not in doubt.

From what I understand the Germans prioritized gaining air superiority over the Med first. I imagine moving planes, pilots, and their supplies took priority over von Manstein's forces. Prudent too: transporting an army through contested waters* would be much safer with air cover.

*Gibraltar and Malta are still under siege, after all.

True. I was also trying to take into account factors such as the coordination problems which are to some extent inevitable when alliances are involved.

From what time on there were 'better' relations with Benny ? ... and knowing of possible shortage of oil, looking for alternatives ... couldn't there have been exploration teams in the western as well as eastern lybian deserts already in 1935/36 ? (Btw. : fast exploration for oil by 'sonic' measurements was a german invention of the middle to late 20ies ;))

However, discovering lybian oil earlier and starting to build up an according infrastructure (pipelines to the coast, tank-ships, build up of according port-facilities and refinery near Venice as they exist OTL, pielines to Austria/Germany (?) for using refineries there, ...)
- on the one side looks as a big bonus for the axis
- on the other side it would draw very close attention of the wallies already prior to war.

The political and especially the military pre-war development in the mediterrainian would be ... interesting (in the chinese sense :openedeyewink:)

In TTL, German-Italian relations improved in the same way as OTL after the negative Anglo-French reaction to Italy's invasion of Ethiopia, which happened in 1936 as historically.

Here's my proposal-the oil is discovered in 1937 as in OTL, Todt takes an immediate interest. An arrangement is worked out, whereby German companies are given rights to develop the oilfields and construct the necessary transport infrastructure in return for machine tools and military technology (I'm thinking something to do with AFVs, perhaps examples of and licenses to produce the Panzer III, which although not selected for mass production in Germany would be a major improvement by Italian standards).

As far as the Wallies, I agree it would attract attention. My guess, however, is that given how relatively stretched British manpower was, and the great priority given by both sides to the Western Front, Anglo-French plans would emphasize bombing over direct ground assault, and would likely not end up amounting to much since in TTL as in OTL France fell very rapidly.
 
Considering the Matzen oilfield and the way Wagner encouraged large surveys for oil in annexed Austria, it does seem likely that Libyan oilfields should be discovered by this point.

Germany should also make sure that they secure Gibraltar and the majority of North Africa by 1943, before the British supply situation there improves due to indigenous jerrycan production. The Jerrycan, designed by Vinzenz Grünvogel, was a key factor in German success in North Africa, and its inferior Allied counterpart (the 5-gallon petrol tin, nicknamed the "flimsy") cost the US and British an estimated 30 to 40 percent of all the fuel they shipped to North Africa due to spillage, evaporation, and leakage. By 1943, however, the British had geared up to produce and ship 2 million jerrycans of their own to North Africa to assist in logistics. It is thus important that the British be mostly pushed out of North Africa by that point.
The Jerrycan's importance was entirely unknown to me. Wow, the little can that could! The notion that the desert military campaigns, and the campaigns in Europe, are significantly impacted by a German fuel container design is surprising. Yet after reading the "Jerrycan" article it makes perfect sense. Once again I'm reminded that a seemingly insignificant factor can have a huge impact on outcomes, and that it sure pays to sweat the details.
From what time on there were 'better' relations with Benny ? ... and knowing of possible shortage of oil, looking for alternatives ... couldn't there have been exploration teams in the western as well as eastern lybian deserts already in 1935/36 ? (Btw. : fast exploration for oil by 'sonic' measurements was a german invention of the middle to late 20ies ;))

However, discovering lybian oil earlier and starting to build up an according infrastructure (pipelines to the coast, tank-ships, build up of according port-facilities and refinery near Venive as they exist OTL, pielines to Austria/Germany (?) for using refineries there, ...)
- on the one side looks as a big bonus for the axis
- on the other side it would draw very close attention of the wallies already prior to war.

The political and especially the military pre-war development in the mediterrainian would be ... interesting (in the chinese sense :openedeyewink:)

Finding oil is of course just the first step. Production wells need to be drilled. Oil field infrastructure needs to be built, such as field piping and storage tanks. Then the crude must be transported by road, rail, barge, ship or pipeline to refineries. The refinery products must then be transported to consumers.

Except for unimproved roads or trails, there's no major transportation infrastructure between the Libyan oil fields and the nearest coastal ports.

Rail is the best solution to transport oil in large bulk quantities from an inland Libyan oil field to a coastal port. Libya in WWII had only two small rail networks, one around Tripoli and the other around Bengasi. No rail lines existed near the potential oil fields or likely coastal transshipment ports. The major oil fields south of the coastal village of Marsa el Brega are fortunately on lowlands with no major ranges of hills or mountains between the fields and Marsa el Brega. Construction of rail lines could be done quickly without major terrain problems.

Marsa el Brega pre-WWII was a small fishing village. There was no port. After the war a port with two breakwaters was built to create a protected inner harbor for loading oil tankers. Breakwaters are quick and easy to build. The port oil storage tanks and the oil pipes for offshore tanker loading is a quick engineering job if you throw enough resources at it.

Then there's the oil tankers required to transport the oil to refineries in the mediterranean, primarily likely in Italy and the south of France. Germany imported more than half of its oil prewar, with about half the imports from Mexico. So there were large numbers of oil tankers transporting oil to Germany. I suspect that these tankers were likely mostly foreign flag tankers, not German, so when the war starts Germany, and Italy, may have to scramble to find tankers to transport the Libyan oil.

Refineries in south of France would be able to ship their refined oil products to Germany on oil barges transiting the vast inland river and canal network of Western Europe.

Here's a link to a webpage that contains a lot of good info about the oil situation that Germany faced in the pre-WW2 OTL.
WARNING: it's one of those pages that does bright yellow text on dark blue background: hard to read. But worth it.
http://histclo.com/essay/war/ww2/eco/raw/oil/w2ero-ger.html

An Axis History Forum article about Germany and Oil. Excellent info.
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=78524

And this site discusses the Allied Oil Campaign of WW2, emphasizing the importance of the allied bombing campaigns that began in mid-1942 aimed at destroying Axis oil infrastructure, especially refineries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_Campaign_of_World_War_II

Bottom line: the discovery and development of major oil fields in Libya preWW2 would be a world changer ITTL. The strategic and tactical impacts of Libya supplying major amounts of oil to the Axis would make the war in the desert (and elsewhere) unfold radically differently ITTL.
 
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In OTL at this point Italy had committed to the Balkans and had lost men and material in North Africa as well. In this TL they've only committed troops fighting in North Africa. What has happened in Abyssinia and what has Italy done with all those divisions that attacked Greece? I would have thought they would have been able to commit a larger force in Libya.
 

NoMommsen

Donor
Bottom line: the discovery and development of major oil fields in Libya preWW2 would be a world changer ITTL. The strategic and tactical impacts of Libya supplying major amounts of oil to the Axis would make the war in the desert (and elsewhere) unfold radically differently ITTL.
That might be perhaps a bit too much but the rest i would agree. As the buid-up of this indutry will take some years, it won't go unconsidered, esp. by the Brits and ... perhaps even the US seeing a potential competitor on the oil market raise.

As there would be no other means of oil transport than by ship I would assume that already well before 1939 they will beef up Malta. Some more airplanes mostly, accompanied by the necessary AA-gun units, as it just has in that case become a focus and a quite prominent I would assume for the axis. That would be quite a threat to future oil convois for relativly low costs (in manpower) for the Wallies.

I'm quite sure the military situation in the Med will look ... different at least from 1938 onwards.

EDIT : @Tonrich
You've been faster writing than me ;). Good point.
With the oil in Lybia, Benny might be himself much more focused to North Africa as in OTL.
 
That might be perhaps a bit too much but the rest i would agree. As the buid-up of this indutry will take some years, it won't go unconsidered, esp. by the Brits and ... perhaps even the US seeing a potential competitor on the oil market raise.

As there would be no other means of oil transport than by ship I would assume that already well before 1939 they will beef up Malta. Some more airplanes mostly, accompanied by the necessary AA-gun units, as it just has in that case become a focus and a quite prominent I would assume for the axis. That would be quite a threat to future oil convois for relativly low costs (in manpower) for the Wallies.

I'm quite sure the military situation in the Med will look ... different at least from 1938 onwards.

EDIT : @Tonrich
You've been faster writing than me ;). Good point.
With the oil in Lybia, Benny might be himself much more focused to North Africa as in OTL.

If/when oil (in the quantities we're talking about) is discovered in Libya I would think Benny would have ditched any idea of getting involved in the Balkans. The new Oil fields is what would make his country rich. That's where all his economic focus would be. If I were him I would send teams of engineers to develop everything needed to not only improve the infrastructure but also encourage immigration of Italian nationals to move and live there.
 
The following paragraph has been added to the Axis Alliance and Nuremberg Agreement chapter on page 10: German-Italian ties had become especially significant by the late 1930s as a result of the discovery of large oilfields in Italy's North African colony Libya in 1937. While they held immense potential for the Italian economy, in practice Italy lacked both the technical expertise and the resources necessary to properly develop them, as they were located in remote desert areas far away from the nearest refineries. Mussolini's growing antagonism with the western democracies inhibited his ability to seek help from that quarter. This represented a major opportunity for the newly installed Fritz Todt, who promptly made Mussolini an offer which offered a way out of his dilemma. In return for granting German oil companies five-year leases on the oilfields, Germany would deliver shipments of machine tools (of which it possessed a large surplus) which could greatly assist Italy in stimulating industrial productivity, along with two examples of the Panzer III medium tank and licenses for its manufacture. Although the expense, particularly in constructing the railroads and port facilities necessary for shipment across the Mediterranean was considerable, by 1940 the venture had proven more than worth it. Germany's oil stocks were filled nearly to capacity, and almost as importantly, the remaining worries of foreign currency shortages were assuaged.

If anyone has further suggestions for its modification, they are more than welcome.

Finding oil is of course just the first step. Production wells need to be drilled. Oil field infrastructure needs to be built, such as field piping and storage tanks. Then the crude must be transported by road, rail, barge, ship or pipeline to refineries. The refinery products must then be transported to consumers.

Except for unimproved roads or trails, there's no major transportation infrastructure between the Libyan oil fields and the nearest coastal ports.

Rail is the best solution to transport oil in large bulk quantities from an inland Libyan oil field to a coastal port. Libya in WWII had only two small rail networks, one around Tripoli and the other around Bengasi. No rail lines existed near the potential oil fields or likely coastal transshipment ports. The major oil fields south of the coastal village of Marsa el Brega are fortunately on lowlands with no major ranges of hills or mountains between the fields and Marsa el Brega. Construction of rail lines could be done quickly without major terrain problems.

Marsa el Brega pre-WWII was a small fishing village. There was no port. After the war a port with two breakwaters was built to create a protected inner harbor for loading oil tankers. Breakwaters are quick and easy to build. The port oil storage tanks and the oil pipes for offshore tanker loading is a quick engineering job if you throw enough resources at it.

Then there's the oil tankers required to transport the oil to refineries in the mediterranean, primarily likely in Italy and the south of France. Germany imported more than half of its oil prewar, with about half the imports from Mexico. So there were large numbers of oil tankers transporting oil to Germany. I suspect that these tankers were likely mostly foreign flag tankers, not German, so when the war starts Germany, and Italy, may have to scramble to find tankers to transport the Libyan oil.

Refineries in south of France would be able to ship their refined oil products to Germany on oil barges transiting the vast inland river and canal network of Western Europe.

Here's a link to a webpage that contains a lot of good info about the oil situation that Germany faced in the pre-WW2 OTL.
WARNING: it's one of those pages that does bright yellow text on dark blue background: hard to read. But worth it.
http://histclo.com/essay/war/ww2/eco/raw/oil/w2ero-ger.html

An Axis History Forum article about Germany and Oil. Excellent info.
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=78524

And this site discusses the Allied Oil Campaign of WW2, emphasizing the importance of the allied bombing campaigns that began in mid-1942 aimed at destroying Axis oil infrastructure, especially refineries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_Campaign_of_World_War_II

Bottom line: the discovery and development of major oil fields in Libya preWW2 would be a world changer ITTL. The strategic and tactical impacts of Libya supplying major amounts of oil to the Axis would make the war in the desert (and elsewhere) unfold radically differently ITTL.

Interesting links! I agree that the coming of war would significantly disrupt the flow of oil from Libya to Italy and Germany. The need to protect the supply would indeed act as another impetus with the German high command for the adoption of the Mediterranean strategy.

That might be perhaps a bit too much but the rest i would agree. As the buid-up of this indutry will take some years, it won't go unconsidered, esp. by the Brits and ... perhaps even the US seeing a potential competitor on the oil market raise.

As there would be no other means of oil transport than by ship I would assume that already well before 1939 they will beef up Malta. Some more airplanes mostly, accompanied by the necessary AA-gun units, as it just has in that case become a focus and a quite prominent I would assume for the axis. That would be quite a threat to future oil convois for relativly low costs (in manpower) for the Wallies.

I'm quite sure the military situation in the Med will look ... different at least from 1938 onwards.

EDIT : @Tonrich
You've been faster writing than me ;). Good point.
With the oil in Lybia, Benny might be himself much more focused to North Africa as in OTL.

Beefing up Malta would undoubtedly be something the British would do. However, I don't think it would be enough to prevent the Wever-led Luftwaffe from being able to acquire air superiority, particularly when the Fw 190 is taken into account.

In OTL at this point Italy had committed to the Balkans and had lost men and material in North Africa as well. In this TL they've only committed troops fighting in North Africa. What has happened in Abyssinia and what has Italy done with all those divisions that attacked Greece? I would have thought they would have been able to commit a larger force in Libya.

If/when oil (in the quantities we're talking about) is discovered in Libya I would think Benny would have ditched any idea of getting involved in the Balkans. The new Oil fields is what would make his country rich. That's where all his economic focus would be. If I were him I would send teams of engineers to develop everything needed to not only improve the infrastructure but also encourage immigration of Italian nationals to move and live there.

I am trying to take a greater focus on North Africa into account by having the initial Italian defeat be less comprehensive. In OTL the 10th Army was completely destroyed and Cyrenaica more or less completely taken by the British prior to the arrival of Rommel. Abyssinia is under heavy pressure as in OTL, as British naval predominance is still very much in effect.

It is certainly true that focusing on Africa instead of the Balkans would be the logical action. Unfortunately for the Axis, the logical action and what Mussolini would actually do are not the same thing. He has however restrained/been restrained (for now at least) from moving into Greece or Yugoslavia.
 
The following paragraph has been added to the Axis Alliance and Nuremberg Agreement chapter on page 10: German-Italian ties had become especially significant by the late 1930s as a result of the discovery of large oilfields in Italy's North African colony Libya in 1937. While they held immense potential for the Italian economy, in practice Italy lacked both the technical expertise and the resources necessary to properly develop them, as they were located in remote desert areas far away from the nearest refineries. Mussolini's growing antagonism with the western democracies inhibited his ability to seek help from that quarter. This represented a major opportunity for the newly installed Fritz Todt, who promptly made Mussolini an offer which offered a way out of his dilemma. In return for granting German oil companies five-year leases on the oilfields, Germany would deliver shipments of machine tools (of which it possessed a large surplus) which could greatly assist Italy in stimulating industrial productivity, along with two examples of the Panzer III medium tank and licenses for its manufacture. Although the expense, particularly in constructing the railroads and port facilities necessary for shipment across the Mediterranean was considerable, by 1940 the venture had proven more than worth it. Germany's oil stocks were filled nearly to capacity, and almost as importantly, the remaining worries of foreign currency shortages were assuaged.

If anyone has further suggestions for its modification, they are more than welcome.



Interesting links! I agree that the coming of war would significantly disrupt the flow of oil from Libya to Italy and Germany. The need to protect the supply would indeed act as another impetus with the German high command for the adoption of the Mediterranean strategy.



Beefing up Malta would undoubtedly be something the British would do. However, I don't think it would be enough to prevent the Wever-led Luftwaffe from being able to acquire air superiority, particularly when the Fw 190 is taken into account.





I am trying to take a greater focus on North Africa into account by having the initial Italian defeat be less comprehensive. In OTL the 10th Army was completely destroyed and Cyrenaica more or less completely taken by the British prior to the arrival of Rommel. Abyssinia is under heavy pressure as in OTL, as British naval predominance is still very much in effect.

It is certainly true that focusing on Africa instead of the Balkans would be the logical action. Unfortunately for the Axis, the logical action and what Mussolini would actually do are not the same thing. He has however restrained/been restrained (for now at least) from moving into Greece or Yugoslavia.

In the pre-WW2 years Standard Oil of California (SoCal) was a major player in negotiating oil field concessions in the Middle East, such as Saudi Arabia. The Saudi Arabia concessions gave close to outright ownership of the Saudi oil fields to SoCal. SoCal would find the oil, develop the fields and transport it to markets. Saudi Arabia got royalty payments based on the amount and price of crude oil shipped. This was normal business practice when a country needed the technical expertise of an international oil company to find, develop and transport oil in Middle East and other global locations. SoCal (and other US oil companies) developed considerable expertise in desert oil field exploration and operations during the pre-WW2 years in the Middle East.

How might the Libyan Oil Company (LOC) oil field concessions and operations have been structured? Here's one possibility.

Firstly the oil concession. Italian-controlled Libya is where the oil fields are located. Italy has no oil exploration or field development expertise. Italy would therefore grant oil field concessions to LOC and earn royalties on crude oil sales. Italy would also get guaranteed access (at a heavily discounted price) to a portion of the petroleum products produced by the upstream refineries, which they could resell at global market prices or use in Italy and its territories. And as a side deal, Italy would get access to important German military technologies such as AFV and aircraft.

Before I describe the LOC partnership here's a bit of history about one of the key LOC proposed partners.

Standard Oil of New Jersey (SoNJ) had been operating a subsidiary in Germany for decades prior to WW2. It continued operating and generating profits in Germany for its US parent during and after WW2.

Here's an article that discusses the important role that SoNJ played in helping Germany develop, build and operate its synthetic gasoline facilities both before and during the war. The German partner was I.G. Farben, who shared its synthetic rubber secrets with SoNJ. FYI, SoNJ went on to become the postwar EXXON.
http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/chapter_04.htm

The subsidiary of SoNJ operating in Germany was called the Deutsche-Amerikanische Petroleum A.G. (DAPAG), in English known as the German-American Oil Company. DAPAG operated petroleum refinery and distribution in Germany. Though 94% owned by Standard Oil of New Jersey, its Board members included prominent members of the Nazi Party.
Below is a one of DAPAG's gas station networks, operating under the acronym DAPOL.

Dapol.jpg


SoNJ was involved in oil exploration in the Persian Gulf during the latter half of the 1930's, competing with SoCal and other US oil companies searching for oil. It was quite a feeding frenzy during those pre-WW2 years. SoNJ has a preexisting relationship with German companies and Nazi officials, and already operates the DAPAG subsidiary in Germany involved in both refineries and refined product sales. SoNJ has expertise in desert oil exploration and development that would be valuable paired with German expertise in petroleum engineering and exploration.

I'm thinking the LOC would be a partnership between SoNJ and a new Deutsche National Petroleum A.G. (DNPAG), with DNPAG having a 51% majority control of LOC. It's worth nothing that DNPAG would include as Board Members and major stockholders key German and Italian government officials (expecting to get rich).

So the Libyan oil exploration, oil field development, oil terminal port construction, and crude oil transportation would involve major SoNJ technical, financial and logistical resources, right up to the point where WW2 international politics finally required Germany and Italy to move in and seize control of the SoNJ Libyan assets at some point after war with the USA had begun. In the OTL the SoNJ DAPAG subsidiary (as well as subsidiaries of Ford and GM btw) continued to operate in Germany well into 1944, manufacturing products used by Germany to fight the US military and sending war profits to their USA parent companies.

The major involvement of SoNJ in LOC should accelerate the development of the Libyan oil fields. It should also help deflect British diplomatic efforts to block LOC access to USA oil field technology, equipment and oil tankers. It might even shield from British attacks the USA (and neutral country) flagged oil tankers transporting Libyan oil destined for Germany, Italy and other Axis allies. It might also give Germany a major new reason to delay or avoid war with the USA, at least prior to Germany defeating its European enemies and consolidating its military and economic grip on conquered and vassal territories.

And imagine Japan getting Libyan oil. One of the main reasons Japan attacked the USA in December 1941 OTL was that the US-led oil embargo had cut Japan off from the oil imports Japan needed to sustain its economy and military. Once the embargo began it was just a matter of time (a year or so) before chronic oil shortages led to the weakening and then collapse of Japan's economy, military and government. If Japan is receiving Libyan oil then the US oil embargo wouldn't work.

Here's a question: what might Germany want from Japan in return for solving Japan's oil import problem?
 
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In the pre-WW2 years Standard Oil of California (SoCal) was a major player in negotiating oil field concessions in the Middle East, such as Saudi Arabia. The Saudi Arabia concessions gave close to outright ownership of the Saudi oil fields to SoCal. SoCal would find the oil, develop the fields and transport it to markets. Saudi Arabia got royalty payments based on the amount and price of crude oil shipped. This was normal business practice when a country needed the technical expertise of an international oil company to find, develop and transport oil in Middle East and other global locations. SoCal (and other US oil companies) developed considerable expertise in desert oil field exploration and operations during the pre-WW2 years in the Middle East.

How might the Libyan Oil Company (LOC) oil field concessions and operations have been structured? Here's one possibility.

Firstly the oil concession. Italian-controlled Libya is where the oil fields are located. Italy has no oil exploration or field development expertise. Italy would get therefore grant oil field concessions to LOC and earn royalties on crude oil sales. Italy would also get guaranteed access (at a heavily discounted price) to a portion of the petroleum products produced by the upstream refineries, which they could resell at global market prices or use in Italy and its territories. And as a side deal, Italy would get access to important German military technologies such as AFV and aircraft.

Before I describe the LOC partnership here's a bit of history about one of my key LOC proposed partners.

Standard Oil of New Jersey (SoNJ) had been operating a subsidiary in Germany for decades prior to WW2. It continued operating and generating profits in Germany for its US parent during and after WW2.

Here's an article that discusses the important role that SoNJ played in helping Germany develop, build and operate its synthetic gasoline facilities both before and during the war. The German partner was I.G. Farben, who shared its synthetic rubber secrets with SoNJ. FYI, SoNJ went on to become the postwar EXXON.
http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/chapter_04.htm

The subsidiary of SoNJ operating in Germany was called the Deutsche-Amerikanische Petroleum A.G. (DAPAG), in English known as the German-American Oil Company. DAPAG operated petroleum refinery and distribution in Germany. Though 94% owned by Standard Oil of New Jersey, its Board members included prominent members of the Nazi Party.
Below is a one of DAPAG's gas station networks, operating under the acronym DAPOL.

Dapol.jpg


SoNJ was involved in oil exploration in the Persian Gulf during the latter half of the 1930's, competing with SoCal and other US oil companies searching for oil. It was quite a feeding frenzy during those pre-WW2 years. SoNJ has a preexisting relationship with German companies and Nazi officials, and already operates the DAPAG subsidiary in Germany involved in both refineries and refined product sales. SoNJ has expertise in desert oil exploration and development that would be valuable paired with German expertise in petroleum engineering and exploration.

I'm thinking the LOC would be a partnership between SoNJ and a new Deutsche National Petroleum A.G. (DNPAG), with DNPAG having a 51% majority control of LOC. It's worth nothing that DNPAG would include as Board Members and major stockholders key German and Italian government officials.

So the Libyan oil exploration, oil field development, oil terminal port construction, and crude oil transportation would involve major SoNJ technical, financial and material resources, right up to the point where WW2 finally required German and Italy to move in and seize the SoNJ Libyan assets at some point after war with the USA had begun. In the OTL the SoNJ DAPAG subsidiary, as well as subsidiaries of Ford and GM btw, continued to operate in German into 1944 routinely sending profits to their parent companies in the USA.

The major involvement of SoNJ should accelerate the development of the Libyan oil fields. It should also help deflect British diplomatic efforts to block LOC access to USA oil field technology, equipment and oil tankers.

The SoNJ involvement in LOC might give Germany a major new reason to delay or avoid going to war with the USA prior to defeating its European enemies and consolidating its military and economic grip on conquered and vassal territories.
This post reminds me of a book I read many years ago about how quite a few US companies continued to do business with Germany after the war had been declared between Germany and the US, the book was titled "Trading with the Enemy".
 
Just edited my SoNJ/LOC post to add a couple thoughts, in particular wondering how access to Libyan oil might affect Japan.
 
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The major involvement of SoNJ in LOC should accelerate the development of the Libyan oil fields. It should also help deflect British diplomatic efforts to block LOC access to USA oil field technology, equipment and oil tankers. It might even shield from British attacks the USA (and neutral country) flagged oil tankers transporting Libyan oil destined for Germany, Italy and other Axis allies. It might also give Germany a major new reason to delay or avoid war with the USA, at least prior to Germany defeating its European enemies and consolidating its military and economic grip on conquered and vassal territories.

And imagine Japan getting Libyan oil. One of the main reasons Japan attacked the USA in December 1941 OTL was that the US-led oil embargo had cut Japan off from the oil imports Japan needed to sustain its economy and military. Once the embargo began it was just a matter of time (a year or so) before chronic oil shortages led to the weakening and then collapse of Japan's economy, military and government. If Japan is receiving Libyan oil then the US oil embargo wouldn't work.

Here's a question: what might Germany want from Japan in return for solving Japan's oil import problem?
So under your scenario the US entry into the war could be delayed by at least a year. As for what Japan could trade to Germany and Italy in return for oil, aircraft carrier designs (or maybe even an old carrier), carrier aircraft designs and other naval tech. as well radial engine tech, their was a thread here about Germany using Japanese radial engine designs, I'll see if I can find it.
 
In the pre-WW2 years Standard Oil of California (SoCal) was a major player in negotiating oil field concessions in the Middle East, such as Saudi Arabia. The Saudi Arabia concessions gave close to outright ownership of the Saudi oil fields to SoCal. SoCal would find the oil, develop the fields and transport it to markets. Saudi Arabia got royalty payments based on the amount and price of crude oil shipped. This was normal business practice when a country needed the technical expertise of an international oil company to find, develop and transport oil in Middle East and other global locations. SoCal (and other US oil companies) developed considerable expertise in desert oil field exploration and operations during the pre-WW2 years in the Middle East.

How might the Libyan Oil Company (LOC) oil field concessions and operations have been structured? Here's one possibility.

Firstly the oil concession. Italian-controlled Libya is where the oil fields are located. Italy has no oil exploration or field development expertise. Italy would therefore grant oil field concessions to LOC and earn royalties on crude oil sales. Italy would also get guaranteed access (at a heavily discounted price) to a portion of the petroleum products produced by the upstream refineries, which they could resell at global market prices or use in Italy and its territories. And as a side deal, Italy would get access to important German military technologies such as AFV and aircraft.

Before I describe the LOC partnership here's a bit of history about one of the key LOC proposed partners.

Standard Oil of New Jersey (SoNJ) had been operating a subsidiary in Germany for decades prior to WW2. It continued operating and generating profits in Germany for its US parent during and after WW2.

Here's an article that discusses the important role that SoNJ played in helping Germany develop, build and operate its synthetic gasoline facilities both before and during the war. The German partner was I.G. Farben, who shared its synthetic rubber secrets with SoNJ. FYI, SoNJ went on to become the postwar EXXON.
http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/chapter_04.htm

The subsidiary of SoNJ operating in Germany was called the Deutsche-Amerikanische Petroleum A.G. (DAPAG), in English known as the German-American Oil Company. DAPAG operated petroleum refinery and distribution in Germany. Though 94% owned by Standard Oil of New Jersey, its Board members included prominent members of the Nazi Party.
Below is a one of DAPAG's gas station networks, operating under the acronym DAPOL.

Dapol.jpg


SoNJ was involved in oil exploration in the Persian Gulf during the latter half of the 1930's, competing with SoCal and other US oil companies searching for oil. It was quite a feeding frenzy during those pre-WW2 years. SoNJ has a preexisting relationship with German companies and Nazi officials, and already operates the DAPAG subsidiary in Germany involved in both refineries and refined product sales. SoNJ has expertise in desert oil exploration and development that would be valuable paired with German expertise in petroleum engineering and exploration.

I'm thinking the LOC would be a partnership between SoNJ and a new Deutsche National Petroleum A.G. (DNPAG), with DNPAG having a 51% majority control of LOC. It's worth nothing that DNPAG would include as Board Members and major stockholders key German and Italian government officials (expecting to get rich).

So the Libyan oil exploration, oil field development, oil terminal port construction, and crude oil transportation would involve major SoNJ technical, financial and logistical resources, right up to the point where WW2 international politics finally required Germany and Italy to move in and seize control of the SoNJ Libyan assets at some point after war with the USA had begun. In the OTL the SoNJ DAPAG subsidiary (as well as subsidiaries of Ford and GM btw) continued to operate in Germany well into 1944, manufacturing products used by Germany to fight the US military and sending war profits to their USA parent companies.

The major involvement of SoNJ in LOC should accelerate the development of the Libyan oil fields. It should also help deflect British diplomatic efforts to block LOC access to USA oil field technology, equipment and oil tankers. It might even shield from British attacks the USA (and neutral country) flagged oil tankers transporting Libyan oil destined for Germany, Italy and other Axis allies. It might also give Germany a major new reason to delay or avoid war with the USA, at least prior to Germany defeating its European enemies and consolidating its military and economic grip on conquered and vassal territories.

And imagine Japan getting Libyan oil. One of the main reasons Japan attacked the USA in December 1941 OTL was that the US-led oil embargo had cut Japan off from the oil imports Japan needed to sustain its economy and military. Once the embargo began it was just a matter of time (a year or so) before chronic oil shortages led to the weakening and then collapse of Japan's economy, military and government. If Japan is receiving Libyan oil then the US oil embargo wouldn't work.

Here's a question: what might Germany want from Japan in return for solving Japan's oil import problem?

Very informative and detailed post. Do you think the Germans might take the route in TTL of having more capable Abwehr target SoCal so as to acquire its expertise directly?

This post reminds me of a book I read many years ago about how quite a few US companies continued to do business with Germany after the war had been declared between Germany and the US, the book was titled "Trading with the Enemy".

While I had heard of US businesses continuing to operate in Germany after open US-German hostilities had begun, I was rather surprised that such activities were continuing as late as 1944.

Just edited my SoNJ/LOC post to add a couple thoughts, in particular wondering how access to Libyan oil might affect Japan.

So under your scenario the US entry into the war could be delayed by at least a year. As for what Japan could trade to Germany and Italy in return for oil, aircraft carrier designs (or maybe even an old carrier), carrier aircraft designs and other naval tech. as well radial engine tech, their was a thread here about Germany using Japanese radial engine designs, I'll see if I can find it.

The aircraft technology in particular is an interesting possibility, was it this thread? https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...-japanese-radial-engines.253081/#post-6545676
 
Very informative and detailed post. Do you think the Germans might take the route in TTL of having more capable Abwehr target SoCal so as to acquire its expertise directly?



While I had heard of US businesses continuing to operate in Germany after open US-German hostilities had begun, I was rather surprised that such activities were continuing as late as 1944.





The aircraft technology in particular is an interesting possibility, was it this thread? https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...-japanese-radial-engines.253081/#post-6545676
Yes that is the thread. :)
 
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