Vive l'Empereur! My first attempt at a Timeline!

1812:

February: In Russia, tensions have been around for several months. The Tsar and his military advisors have been discussing the situation in Europe for some time. To both the Russians aswell as the French, a French victory seems clear. Russian espionage missions have pointed out that the French possess more manpower than the Russians at that moment. The Russian army COULD be bigger, but for that mobilization is required, and time is short.

June: The Tsar has decided that a war with Napoleon would likely result in a catastrophe for the country. Both loss and victory would result in disasters in the Russian army and even on the streets. A diplomat is sent on the 18th, 2 days before the formation of a new Coalition, and is to tell Napoleon the Tsar gives in to his demands of joining the Continental Alliance.

August: Napoleon decides to create sattelite nations out of Prussia and Austria, and places the 4 year old Charles Louis Napoleon on the throne of Prussia. Napoleon Louis Bonaparte, 7 years old, is put on the throne of the 'Hispanic Kingdom'. The Emperor of Austria, Francis I, tells Napoleon he will not let himself be kicked out of his own nation, although he is willing to join the Continental Alliance. Napoleon doesn't find this appealing enough, and demands Francis I to abdicate.

September: Francis I, still the Emperor of Austria, is once again demanded by Napoleon to abdicate. Napoleon says that if he ignores the demands, he'll have to send the Grande Armée to capture Vienna and the Emperor himself. Francis I, does, indeed, ignore the demands and stands strongly and courageful on his rank of leadership.

October: On the 2nd of October, Several divisions of the Grande Armee are send to Vienna, and by the 20th of October, Vienna is voilently captured. Francis I, the remains of the Austrian army, and great amounts of German Austrian civilians surrender to Budapest, Hungary. There he crowns himself "Emperor of Hungary and Protector of Austrian Civilization". Napoleon partitions Prussia and Austria between the Confederation of the Rhine and the Duchy of Warsaw.

November: Armistice signed between France and Hungary.

December: Invasion of Portugal. Large amounts of the Portuguese army are re-stationed on Brazil, with help of the Royal Navy. Because of this, the Napoleonic victory in Portugal is clear. Guerilla Warfare starts in many places all over Portugal, keeping the Grande Armée severely distracted.

Here is a map of 1813, but READ THIS FIRST: The map is based on the awesome OTL 1812 map by Knight Templar (https://www.alternatehistory.com/Discussion/showthread.php?t=62554):

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The southern tip of Patagonia is colonized by the UK (The Falkland islands are perfect for it). I suppose that since Napoleon isn't distracted by Russia, the UK will have much more problems with Napoleon, and thus be in worse state in the 1812 war. Not sure though... :confused:

If people like it, i will continue. If not, i'd love to hear what i should change about it! :D I'm open to any suggestions, both positive and negative ones! Thank you! ;)

-Korporal Nooij.
 
It sounds god, please do write more!
I think Napoleon forcibly removing the Hapsburg Emperor will do two things:
1- cause a lot of tension in the years to come (obviously)
2- cause a lot of tension on this site, what will al the Hapsburg-philes (obviously)
Maybe the abdication etc. is a little heavy handed for Napoleon, and will only drive crowned heads of state away from him- they'll see that he's deposed the Emperor and he'll be left on his own.

Anyway, interesting start, keep it up.
 
It sounds god, please do write more!
I think Napoleon forcibly removing the Hapsburg Emperor will do two things:
1- cause a lot of tension in the years to come (obviously)
2- cause a lot of tension on this site, what will al the Hapsburg-philes (obviously)
Maybe the abdication etc. is a little heavy handed for Napoleon, and will only drive crowned heads of state away from him- they'll see that he's deposed the Emperor and he'll be left on his own.

Anyway, interesting start, keep it up.

Thank you for your reply and the great suggestions! :D

I'm hoping to make the Hapsburgs regain their place in Europe. :)
The Hapsburgs will strike back! :D:p

And still, they now (by 1813) peacefully own Hungary. I suppose that's a great place for working against Napoleon. ;)

-Korporal Nooij.
 
I liked! :D With Britian vanquished from the European mainland I'd imagine the US is going to knee-deep in shit, unless Napoleon somehow manages to fly across the channel! I do wonder what Britian will do now that theres no willing counter-balanece to France in Europe....
 
UPDATE! :D 1813!

1813:

January: Portugal annexed by France, although Guerilla Warfare is to be used continuously against the Napoleonic troops.

February: Napoleon Louis Bonaparte, now the 8 year old king of Hispania (Spain), is granted full control over Portugal. War starts between Russia and the Ottoman Empire.

April: Sweden blockades the Danish port in Copenhagen, after some serious threats between the nations. Napoleon, willing to help his Danish ally, send a few divisions into Denmark.

May: Treaty of Oslo: Sweden cedes Norway from Denmark; France takes control over Denmark; and both sides claim the Danish colonies.

June: The United Kingdom, afraid that the French might take control over Iceland and Greenland, sends the Royal Navy to these colonies and captures the islands, with aid from the allied Sweden.

July: Great uprising in Austria. The single French division stationed in Austria, is completely wiped out. The 'Habsburgists' as the Revolutionaries are called, capture several important French officers.

August: Greece is granted independence, and becomes a sattelite state of Russia. In the meantime, Napoleonic reinforcements have arrived to end the Habsurgist Revolt.

September: Revolt ends, with over 3.000 casualties for France and 1.500 casualties for the revolutionaries. Francis I is alarmed by this, and decides it might just be possible to defeat Napoleon after all. Francis I decides it is possible to gain some Ottoman territory in the Balkans, and thus declares war.

October: Ottoman-Russian War ends with Russian victory. The Treaty of Sevastopol is signed: Napoleon puts the Tsar under pressure and is thus granted Bosnia as a dependency; Greece is granted some territory in Western/Southwestern Turkey; Russia takes over a huge part of the Balkans and Constantinople, making the Russian dream of being the Third Rome more plausible. For the 4,000 troop-aid Francis I had given Russia, Russia also grants him a small piece of land in the Balkans, strongly against Napoleon's will. Egypt and Tunis are granted independence from the Ottomans.

November: Napoleon decides he needs a good route for a Second Egyptian invasion, and sends an army to invade North Africa. The army, known as "Armée Militaire d'Afrique", takes control of several territories. This triggers many independent Berber nations to rise.

December: Napoleon defeats several Berber nations while the UK, isolated from Europe, desperately takes control over Patagonia, and claims Argentina. Both the UK and the USA are neither on the verge of losing nor winning.

Situation by 1814:
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Important notes: The Latin American nations are now independent; The Maya's of Yucatan claimed independence, and are now at war with Central America and the UK; The Spanish King has abdicated to New Granada; The UK has taken Cuba; and the Portuguese King has become the Brazilian Emperor, still possessing a few colonies in Africa, one is taken by the UK.

Thank you all for the great comments!! :D

-Korporal Nooij.
 
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Philip

Donor
October: Ottoman-Russian War ends with Russian victory. Russia grants Bosnia as a French dependency; Greece is granted some territory in Western/Southwestern Turkey. Francis I annexes a small territory in the Balkans; and Russia takes over a huge part of the Balkans and also Constantinople. In North Africa, Egypt gains independence; so does Tunisia; and the Turks have no more influence in the Saudi Arabia area. The Ottoman Emperor is abdicated and the 'Republic of the Turks' is proclaimed.

I was with you until now.
 
Uhh...on your map, why has the UK been pushed off the US coast? I could understand the inland, but the coast is going to be where the UK is going to have the most control....
 
Uhh...on your map, why has the UK been pushed off the US coast? I could understand the inland, but the coast is going to be where the UK is going to have the most control....

You're right! Thank you, Ostost! ;)
I have edited the map, now i'll just have to upload it! :D

-Korporal Nooij.
 
UPDATE! :D

1814:


January: Napoleon makes Denmark a satellite state, and puts his nephew Charles Lucien Bonaparte on the throne of this new Kingdom.

March: The Armée Militaire d'Afrique (AMA) has pushed well south through North Africa, and Napoleon and his military advisors begin to plan a new offensive into the now independent Egypt.

May: The AMA is now send into Egypt. It turns out to be a very succesful campaign, many Spanish, Danish, Dutch, Polish, Bosnians and even Russians have joined the AMA. The British, alarmed by this invasion, immediately sends diplomats to the Ottoman Empire (or what has remained of it, though still an empire), and try to gain military access through the little coastal part called Kuwait, so that they could launch an offensive against the AMA.

June: The Seventh Coalition is formed, members are: The UK; The Ottoman Empire; Sweden; Brazil/Portugal and New Granada/Spain.

July: The British are given access through Kuwait. However, the Egyptians don't want the UK to intervere, and thus the UK declares war on Egypt, and invades the Sinai peninsula. Now a Three-Side War has started: Egypt on one side; France on the other; and then there's the UK.

August: The British and French troops meet one another in Egypt, and begin skirmishes, while the Egyptians surrender southward.

September: The Coalition declares war on Russia, and Anglo-Swedish troops invade the island of Åland.

October: The Coalition invades the Finnish mainland, and captures Pori. The situation in Egypt remains undecided.

November: Russia captures the cities of Vardo; Hammerfest; Tromso; Halstad; Narvik and Kiruna.

December: President Madison of the USA, desperately asks Napoleon for support in the war he is obviously losing. Napoleon believes it might be useful to have an Ally on the other side of the ocean. Napoleon's response letter was as follows:

"President James Madison,

I'm aware that the war is turning against you. I accept your proposal of this so-called 'Atlantic Alliance'.
Unfortunately, i cannot support you with all my power, YET. Although the United Kingdom has been knocked from the continent...
...I hope i'll be able to gain the upper-hand on the ocean soon.
In the meantime, try requesting support from nations that are able to help you as of now.

Don't try it with Spain. They're obviously still mad about the bloodshed of a few years ago. Ask Emperor Vicente Guerrero.
Mexico might be willing to lend you a hand. Offer them territories in North America. If you want it or not, it might get them on our side.

Yours truly,
Your new ally, Napoleon Bonaparte.
"

The world around 1815:

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The little Egypt-colored spot beyond the borders is a division that has been pushed out of the nation by Napoleonic troops.

I'd love to hear opinions and suggestions on it! :D Like, could Mexico be willing to join the USA? If not, what will happen to the USA after the war? And who will win? Sweden or Russia? :)

-Korporal Nooij.
 
I like that Napoleon writes to Madison in such informal terms! Given his language he obviously was very ahead of his times lol!

Well I kinda like the idea of Napoleon having more of a Mediterranean strategy- so basically instead of taking Russia he's taking the Med.
Given that Napoleon was already fairly megalomaniacal then I'd just love to see him go mad adn proclaim himself Roman Emperor!
Slightly ridiculous and bordering on ASB. Just like history then.
;)
 
I like that Napoleon writes to Madison in such informal terms! Given his language he obviously was very ahead of his times lol!

Well I kinda like the idea of Napoleon having more of a Mediterranean strategy- so basically instead of taking Russia he's taking the Med.
Given that Napoleon was already fairly megalomaniacal then I'd just love to see him go mad adn proclaim himself Roman Emperor!
Slightly ridiculous and bordering on ASB. Just like history then.
;)

Thank you, Saepe Fidelis! :D

Haha, it might be interesting indeed, to have him proclaim himself Roman Emperor! :) It would probably bring him into problems with the Russians (who believed they're the Third Roman Empire) and maybe the Greeks, which would probably wouldn't mind becoming Byzantium again. That'll be very nice! :p

-Korporal Nooij
 
Thank you, Saepe Fidelis! :D

Haha, it might be interesting indeed, to have him proclaim himself Roman Emperor! :) It would probably bring him into problems with the Russians (who believed they're the Third Roman Empire) and maybe the Greeks, which would probably wouldn't mind becoming Byzantium again. That'll be very nice! :p

-Korporal Nooij

Well it's not really a serious suggestion, but why not, let's have a mad emperor, this place isn't mad enough.
 

Valdemar II

Banned
I'm sorry Napoleon invading Denmark and setting a relative on the Danish throne? So he invade a ally, and somehow without a fleet succed in conquer Zealand (news flash the Danish King lives in Copenhagen). Sorry I saw a small unit of French troops in Denmark take over Denmark

Here's what will happen Napoleon invade Jutland, and beat the Danish army most of it are evaquated to Fuen, which Napoleon fail to conquer, Denmark join the British, and are forced to give up Norway to Sweden (the primary reason Denmark stayed on the French side), but are promissed major territories in Germany instead. Napoleons last allies are completely alienated by him invading a ally, and every monarch whom isn't a relative of Napoleon join the next coaliation. Just to give you some ideas of Denmarks military size 100 000 men under arms, of whom 25-30 000 was in Norway. leaving at least 70 000 in Denmark (most of which would be placed near Copenhagen if Sweden threaten with invading*). The quality of the Danish army was among the best in Europe (one of the reason because Denmark had avoided major loss of veterans), through the qualitity of the officer corps was mediocre.

This isn't a realistic timeline.

*Making a French takeover impossible.
 
I'm sorry Napoleon invading Denmark and setting a relative on the Danish throne? So he invade a ally, and somehow without a fleet succed in conquer Zealand (news flash the Danish King lives in Copenhagen). Sorry I saw a small unit of French troops in Denmark take over Denmark

Here's what will happen Napoleon invade Jutland, and beat the Danish army most of it are evaquated to Fuen, which Napoleon fail to conquer, Denmark join the British, and are forced to give up Norway to Sweden (the primary reason Denmark stayed on the French side), but are promissed major territories in Germany instead. Napoleons last allies are completely alienated by him invading a ally, and every monarch whom isn't a relative of Napoleon join the next coaliation. Just to give you some ideas of Denmarks military size 100 000 men under arms, of whom 25-30 000 was in Norway. leaving at least 70 000 in Denmark (most of which would be placed near Copenhagen if Sweden threaten with invading*). The quality of the Danish army was among the best in Europe (one of the reason because Denmark had avoided major loss of veterans), through the qualitity of the officer corps was mediocre.

This isn't a realistic timeline.

*Making a French takeover impossible.

Thank you very much for your help, Valdemar II! :D

I guess i kinda messed up, and that it would be time-wasting to edit all my posts to make it realistic. Thanks for all the views, replies and everything! ;)

Hopefully i'll do a better job next time. Thanks again! :)

-Korporal Nooij.

Ps. I suppose this thread can be closed now.
 
October: Ottoman-Russian War ends with Russian victory. The Treaty of Sevastopol is signed: Napoleon puts the Tsar under pressure and is thus granted Bosnia as a dependency; Greece is granted some territory in Western/Southwestern Turkey; Russia takes over a huge part of the Balkans and Constantinople, making the Russian dream of being the Third Rome more plausible. For the 4,000 troop-aid Francis I had given Russia, Russia also grants him a small piece of land in the Balkans, strongly against Napoleon's will. Egypt and Tunis are granted independence from the Ottomans.

Why everybody who lacks the knowledge about the Ottomans always wants to destroy them ??? :mad::mad::mad:
 
I haven't read your TL yet, but I recommend that you save your maps in .png. Saving it in .gif makes it all pixalated and impossible to edit.
 
Well, i saved them in BMP, but i suppose they are converted to GIF when i upload it to TinyPic. Oh well, seems like i messed up with the Ottoman Empire and Denmark anyways!

But thanks, Cornivus, i will be sure to use it next time! :)

And i am sorry, Ridwan Asher, it wasn't my meaning to make the Ottomans look weak. Indeed, my knowledge of their empire and history is limited. :(

Thanks for all the comments! ;)

-Korporal Nooij.
 
Whilst i think its a good idea for a TL i personally think it needs little more work to - as far as i can work out, nothing bad except for the wipe out of a french division in Austria, happens to the french.
 
Whilst i think its a good idea for a TL i personally think it needs little more work to - as far as i can work out, nothing bad except for the wipe out of a french division in Austria, happens to the french.

Thank you Jammy! :D

I will try my best to improve my skills. :)
I already have an idea for a new TL. Hopefully it'll be better!

-Korporal Nooij.
 
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