Victorious Nazis hold war crime trials

Lets assume, however unlikely it may seem, that Nazi Germany forces Britain and the Soviet Union to the point of unconditional surrender. Which Allied/Soviet leaders would they put on trial for war crimes, and on what charges?
 
Lets assume, however unlikely it may seem, that Nazi Germany forces Britain and the Soviet Union to the point of unconditional surrender. Which Allied/Soviet leaders would they put on trial for war crimes, and on what charges?
What about the US and other allies?
 
Lets assume, however unlikely it may seem, that Nazi Germany forces Britain and the Soviet Union to the point of unconditional surrender. Which Allied/Soviet leaders would they put on trial for war crimes, and on what charges?
I doubt the Nazis would hold warcrime trials. They'd probably just execute whichever leaders they felt like - because, you know, Nazis.
 
What about the US and other allies?

The scenario is far-fetched as it is. Bringing the US to the point of unconditional surrender and arraigning its leaders is virtually science-fiction. However, if you want to include them, feel free to do so.
 
I doubt the Nazis would hold warcrime trials. They'd probably just execute whichever leaders they felt like - because, you know, Nazis.

You are probably right in that the Nazis would not hold trials for the purposes of implementing justice. But such an event would have tremendous propaganda value, and also might be pursued in the cause of vindicating their actions to posterity. Lets just assume that they are held.
 
Probably they kill all from politic/military leader to high ranking officer and all of them who dare oppose Nazis, whose they can catch, without trial.
 
the only one thing I can probably said as "Probable" is Stalin get a bomb on his head and he's dead, leaving Soviet Union throughly demoralized and surrender...

then, Nazis demand ceasefire to Britain
 
Churchill gets the rope - though he'd demand a firing squad, probably. They'd say 'nein'. Attlee is probably spared, but 20 years of hard labour would be as good as a death sentence. If this is an 'unconditional surrender' scenario, they aren't going to need any existing political leader to become a puppet, so Anthony Eden is probably done for. Lots of Labour MPs would be killed simply for being left wing (or indeed Jewish), but that probably doesn't count as being part of an alt-Nuremberg.

British military leaders... it'd be complicated. Montgomery didn't earn the ire of the Germans by doing anything other than 'winning battles', and if Rommel is still a key player in this victorious Third Reich I can see him pressing for leniency. Monty might even end up as 'the good Englander', in the same way Rommel is revered in Britain today. Other Army commanders could well be politely excused of wrongdoing, or simply charged with 'waging aggressive war in the service of Judeo-Bolshevism', and as such either executed or sentenced to short prison terms, like many OKH leaders.

Bomber Harris, on the other hand, might as well shoot himself in the mouth and get it over with. He's toast. So, probably, are much of the Royal Navy command - they will be tried as cold-blooded monsters who tried to starve Europe into submission, in one of the bitterest ironies of the Nazi trials.

All the Soviet leaders with authority over anything larger than a wheelbarrow are shot. In that regard they meet a similar, if speedier, fate to their citizens.
 
MY impression is that the Nazis murdered people but did not usually feel they needed to bother with show trials

Interestingly, the opposite proved true in their occupied countries - the Gestapo were meticulous in constructing legally sound charges against their victims. They didn't have to be true, of course. They just needed to be written down. One Hungarian resistance member famously recounted this, and followed it with 'by contrast, the Russians just shot you.'

It seems show trials were out of fashion in the USSR by the middle of the war.

NB: We should not confuse the execution of political or resistance prisoners with the racially-motivated murders carried out by the Nazis. The latter did indeed involve no level of trial, charge, or even sentence.

Without US involvement though would the war have gone on long enough for the city bombing campaigns to have got into full swing?

Handwavium, Ian.
 
ASB, but here's how I see it.

Regarding the USSR, there would be no war crimes trials. Anyone remotely associated with the Soviet government,military leadership, and communist part organization would be summarily executed. Period. Russians were subhumans after all so there is no reason to placate the subhuman masses with the pretense of legality.

I think the UK and US would be treated differently. Nazis would have the same overall goal in mind (complelete elimination of any political/military/social source of opposition), but since both the US and UK were seen as more racially acceptable, at least at the Anglo-Saxon upper echelons, the Germans would seek to offer some legitimization of their elimination. I suspect key civilian leaders like Churchill, George VI, FDR, and their closest advisors and supporters, etc. would conveninently be killed attempting to avoid capture. Military leaders, such as Eisenhower or Montgomery might be offered parole in exchange for retirement, but many others like Bomber Harris and a host of other RAF, USAAF, and USN personnel involved in the aerial bombing campaigns, the naval blockade, submarine warfare, intelligence/propaganda might well be tried as "war criminals", perhaps fairly openly and even fairly to help convince the new subject populations that their leaders deserve what the Nazis intend to do to them.
 

JSmith

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Lets assume, however unlikely it may seem, that Nazi Germany forces Britain and the Soviet Union to the point of unconditional surrender. Which Allied/Soviet leaders would they put on trial for war crimes, and on what charges?
This supposes that the Nazis were basically like the Western Allies and the Soviets- they were not.
 

CalBear

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Lets assume, however unlikely it may seem, that Nazi Germany forces Britain and the Soviet Union to the point of unconditional surrender. Which Allied/Soviet leaders would they put on trial for war crimes, and on what charges?

All of them.

Literally.

An all conquering Reich would have been a death factory for anyone who had opposed it.
 
Probably they kill all from politic/military leader to high ranking officer and all of them who dare oppose Nazis, whose they can catch, without trial.

Come on, these caricatures of Nazis got to stop. They even put Hitler conspirators in kangaroo courts. THey would do the same to Stalin, top generals and the like for propaganda value.
 
They'd accuse them of being Jews or something, and present some vague bogus evidence, thus "proving" that there was a grand Jewish conspiracy.
 

sharlin

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Come on, these caricatures of Nazis got to stop. They even put Hitler conspirators in kangaroo courts. THey would do the same to Stalin, top generals and the like for propaganda value.

A Kangaroo court is not a trial, the verdicts already decided. Yes their would be nice public trials but they would be about as fair and balanced as a USA vs Andorra full scale war.
 
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