What were the videos? I want to search them up myself if they don't work through links.
AlrightWhat were the videos? I want to search them up myself if they don't work through links.
The video is "ORdinary People" by The Box.Alright
the videos I linked are mostly albums. The original is Cat System Corps - news at 11 which is the album that inspired me to make the timeline. The Console war update was a "hedgehogwave" Sonic Themed vaporwave mix, the recent one was an audio of Quixotics Highway Violence and the Updates pertaining to the new union are mostly Sovietwave tracks.
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CountDVB, you made an interesting suggestion in post 48 about American energy. You suggest that going full nuclear is the best solution to removing dependence on foreign oil. While I would agree with that sentiment it’s probably going to be incredibly difficult to plausibly achieve. Chernobyl’s only 7 years ago at this point and still has a bad taste in the mouth of many.
I mean, it could be possible for it to be a public nuclear energy place. Got a lot of uranium around and using some military budget to build it could be seenas a large sign of peace for it.The last best chance to go nuclear in the United States was the 1970s given wildly escalating construction costs even before Three Mile Island. Basically complete everything underway that was cancelled IOTL (300 something plants IIRC). Barring that in the modern era I think you could see a few, but would require the feds to cover the bond and huge cost overruns—or straight up make it a public nuclear energy utility.
Likewise it’s too early for solar, tech isn’t there yet and you can’t make enough to lower the cost per megawatt enough in the era. More geothermal for sure, but that’s very location limited. Not many possible dams left (although half or more could be majorly upgraded, and should be), the biggest couple possibilities are in Alaska and are “last chance early ’80s” and “quite possibly” respectively.
Wind on the other hand was completely neglected in the USA but well proven elsewhere led by the Dutch… and the most suitable for Made in America 1990s failed NAFTA / Perot cancelled NAFTA scenario. Building them is sophisticated but within reach of plenty of manufacturing companies so government start-up cash + subsidies could get a ton done. It could support farmers by giving them all a discount on wind energy. Even cost per megawatt way better than most (not like natural gas good though) and if you build an absolute ton and commit to keep doing so for a decade the cost will go way down versus OTL given America’s sheer scale. Unlike nuclear where the complexity of a reactor means you just can’t hit that mass production scale when the biggest order is a few hundred across a few years.
But like base load energy Wind is not, hence: big pushes for cool non-electric battery energy storage like flywheels, pumped storage, mass weights, and pneumatic batteries. Modern day battery backed grid ideas moved to 1990s and adapted to deal with crummy electric batteries.
Alas even a combo crazy wind farm / geothermal / Alaska Susitna-Watana dam / public nuclear utility / gas tax increase + expansion to natural gas plants / funky battery storage plan… still results in the primary type built being natural gas despite the altered economics of TTL. A better and more fun trajectory though
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Incidentally Ross Perot ‘92 makes way more sense than ‘96 in my view, second time around outsiders have seen the parties adapt to their positions.
You can push solar a lot farther than it was at the time through funding for R&D and production...the cost was rather high in the early 1990s, but even at the time it had a fairly steep cost curve and had come down a lot since the 1970s. You're not going to see it deployed on the same massive scale as today in the 1990s, but concerted investment could possibly move it so that the OTL 2010s boom starts in the 2000s instead. Another thing you can push, solar-wise, is non-electricity applications like solar water heaters. Those were more cost effective and could still cut emissions noticeably.Likewise it’s too early for solar, tech isn’t there yet and you can’t make enough to lower the cost per megawatt enough in the era.
There's always hot dry rock...More geothermal for sure, but that’s very location limited.
I personally view vaporwave as a rose tinted look at the care free attitudes of the 90's and the look towards what the new millennium would bring before it all came literally crashing down. I don't see it as a critique of capitalism, more a call back to pre 9/11 care free naivety.So, first, we have the most prolific commenter on this thread, Emperor Norton the 1st. In Posts 21 and 22 you make some amazing points about the more cynical themes of vaporwave. That of how capitalism has become about selling a lifestyle instead of a functional product. It’s a good point since Consumerism in America is especially weird.
There's some funny stories relating to that, both from ITV.I saw an ask Reddit thread the other day about what people from the UK think is strange about American Culture. One of the responses was from someone who took a British friend to a Football game, and during a long pause, the American explained to the confused friend that they were waiting for a commercial break to end. The British friend was dumbfounded that a Sporting event would be put on hold for 10 mins so people at home could watch commercials.
Oh absolutely agreed. It just doesn’t buy you the same bang for the buck as wind politically, which is why I focused on wind.You can push solar a lot farther than it was at the time through funding for R&D and production...the cost was rather high in the early 1990s, but even at the time it had a fairly steep cost curve and had come down a lot since the 1970s
No, but at the same time it was always the renewable, right from the beginning. There's some kind of mystique to getting energy from the Sun, or maybe it's the demonstrably massive potential energy output you could theoretically get from it. If you're seeing a lot of investment in wind you're probably also going to get a fair amount of solar investment, even if maybe not on the same scale. I guess one thing that they might look into more than IOTL is concentrated solar power. Historically, this just ended up getting killed by photovoltaics, but there are certain advantages to it and it was definitely more financially feasible than PV in the 1990s (AFAICT, the cost of late '80s era plants were actually quite similar to those of '10s era plants, which illustrates both the advantages and disadvantages of CSP in the 1990s).Oh absolutely agreed. It just doesn’t buy you the same bang for the buck as wind politically, which is why I focused on wind.
I'm reminded of this article right here: https://www.theatlantic.com/science...olar-panels-anymore-industrial-policy/619213/No, but at the same time it was always the renewable, right from the beginning. There's some kind of mystique to getting energy from the Sun, or maybe it's the demonstrably massive potential energy output you could theoretically get from it. If you're seeing a lot of investment in wind you're probably also going to get a fair amount of solar investment, even if maybe not on the same scale. I guess one thing that they might look into more than IOTL is concentrated solar power. Historically, this just ended up getting killed by photovoltaics, but there are certain advantages to it and it was definitely more financially feasible than PV in the 1990s (AFAICT, the cost of late '80s era plants were actually quite similar to those of '10s era plants, which illustrates both the advantages and disadvantages of CSP in the 1990s).
The problem with a '92 Perot victory is that:Incidentally Ross Perot ‘92 makes way more sense than ‘96 in my view, second time around outsiders have seen the parties adapt to their positions.