utopian colonies other than in Paraguay

yofie

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If Paraguay had won the Paraguayan War (aka the War of the Triple Alliance) and 90% of its men were thus not killed, would utopia-minded settlers from countries such as Australia, Germany, Japan, and Russia have gone to countries other than Paraguay in the late 1800s and early 1900s? In other words, would settlements like New Australia and Nueva Germania have been founded somewhere other than Paraguay, given that Paraguay would not have been quite as desperate for more men to settle and work the land in the aftermath of the Paraguayan War?
 

yofie

Banned
Or let's say, there had been no Paraguayan War at all. With no men lost like that, would there still have been these utopian colonies in Paraguay, or would they have settled in other countries instead?
 
It was and is plenty of utopian colonies outside Paraguay, although the country has actually a very significant track record in this department.
 

yofie

Banned
So in the event of no Paraguayan War, would the likes of New Australia and Nueva Germania have been set up in Bolivia or Argentina or Brazil or Chile, or more like in the Galapagos or Iowa? Or still in Paraguay?
 
the neuvo germania link leads me to believe 'utopia' means German master race, which was a rising theory (Pax Germanica)in those days. The australian one seems more a true utopian ideal. Paraguay may have seemed a good spot for such an ideal based on the fact that P had been decimated by war, and thus was ripe for such a settlement. Additionally, Francia aimed toward the utopian ideal, and legislated toward, so there was precident, which makes such a settlement palatable.
 

yofie

Banned
Let me see, I just read that Paraguay attracted utopian settlements because of its isolation as well as because of the massive loss of population from the Paraguayan War. Was it due to both of these factors, or one more than the other?
 

yofie

Banned
I have an idea - if places like New Australia and Nueva Germania are not established in Paraguay, maybe they could be established in far eastern Bolivia or parts of Brazil's Mato Grosso region! How does that sound - not dissimilar climate, terrain, and vegetation to Paraguay?
 
As far as I know there was a single colony in Paraguay and it existed during the elder López' administration. It was a French colony. The Paraguayan dictator turned the miserable settlers into slaves. Only a threat of war by France allowed the settlers to leave the country.
 
There were some Utopian colonies everywhere in the Western World. You name it.

the US, as someone said.

France (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Familistère_de_Guise).
Étymologiquement « lieu de réunion des familles », construit sur le modèle du phalanstère de Charles Fourier, le Familistère de Guise, dans l'Aisne, est un haut lieu de l’histoire économique et sociale des xixe et xxe siècles.
Argentina (http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falansterio):
En la República Argentina, Jean Joseph Durando estableció en 1857 un falansterio en terrenos donados por el hacendado Luis Hughes, en lo que se llamó Colonia San José en Hughes, cerca de Colón, provincia de Entre Ríos. La formaban 530 inmigrantes suizos,saboyanos y alemanes.
Brazil (http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falanstério_do_Saí).
Falanstério do Saí ou Colônia Industrial do Saí foi uma comunidade experimental intencional fourierista formada em 1841 por colonos franceses, na península do Saí, às margens da Baía de Babitonga, nas imediações da atual Vila da Glória, próximo à atual cidade histórica de São Francisco do Sul, em Santa Catarina, no sul do Brasil.

and I'm only counting the Fourierist Utopian societies that I found in a quick search in Wikipedia.
 
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