USN adopts Goalkeeper

The USN decides as good as it is something better than the Phalanx CIWS is needed and adopts the Goalkeeper CIWS. The new system is 900 pounds heavier so for some smaller ships the Phalanx would still be kept.
 
Having 2 'fleets' of CWIS would outweigh any advantages that the Goalkeeper might give in terms of performance.
 
Serious question, does that even matter? That's five guys standing in a circle, or a decent weight rack, I'd assume it would be lost in the noise of a ship.
Potentially, yes. It isn't just weight - Phalanx as I understand it can pretty much be bolted straight onto a deck, be provided with power and is good to go. Goalkeeper needs deck penetrations and space below deck, making it a much harder system to shoehorn in.
The other issue is that Goalkeeper isn't all that big an improvement - and the gap between Goalkeeper becoming available and Sea RAM (or at least the missile system and launcher) being on the horizon is quite small. If they really want to get rid of Phalanx, I can't help thinking that Sea RAM is the likely beneficiary rather than Goalkeeper - even ignoring NIH syndrome, the performance improvements are pretty radical.
 
Yes the Phalanx system is non intrusive and As far as I recall has no deck penetration etc. and so takes up very little room and therefore was able to be retrofitted to ships designed before CIWS where introduced and easier to incorporate for subsequent designs.

Goalkeeper is a much more intrusive and heavier system and on a Frigate and Destroyer sized vessel you would likely have to mount it on top of the super structure or somewhere on the centre line allowing for clear arcs of fire - where as Phalanx would be easier to install on the same position and or the flanks etc
 
What do the AMERICANS get in return? What is the RN forced to buy in return?

When the British bought the Goalkeeper I believe that the Dutch bought something off of the UK I seem to think it was the Sea Lynx Helo but I could not find anything - my google fu is weak

Had the US bought it then again I suspect that the Dutch buy I dunno Harpoon or something for their Warships. But to put it into context I think the weapon system was only fitted on a handful of Warships - 2 CVLs 2 landing docks and the 4 batch 3 Type 22s - for a total of 12 weapons systems.
 
When the British bought the Goalkeeper I believe that the Dutch bought something off of the UK I seem to think it was the Sea Lynx Helo but I could not find anything - my google fu is weak

Had the US bought it then again I suspect that the Dutch buy I dunno Harpoon or something for their Warships. But to put it into context I think the weapon system was only fitted on a handful of Warships - 2 CVLs 2 landing docks and the 4 batch 3 Type 22s - for a total of 12 weapons systems.

While the Goalkeeper is built by the Dutch, the Americans supply the gun used.
 
Maybe USS Stark lives?

The USS Stark did not die it served on until 1999 and under the same circumstances i.e. confused and ambiguous orders from the ships Captain (who feared an exocet attack but did not convey this fear to his crew and was under the belief that the CIWS was active when it was not) a Goalkeeper still in passive mode like Starks Phalanx was would be equally ineffective
 
The Goalkeeper isn't 900lbs heavier than the Phalanx, it's 9 tons compared to 6 tons. It's a fucking whopper and not just a drop in for a Phalanx.
 
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